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Old 05-06-2016, 02:48 PM
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Hello, Good [insert your time of day],

I hope I can have some light on the questions below, as I too am planning to immigrate to Australia. I know this question ought to have been asked multiple times, but after searching the forum for similar circunstances, I would still like the group to review my particular case. Caution: long text ahead

I am a Materials Engineer graduated from a Federal University in Brazil. My institution is recognized as "Section 1" by the Australian Governement, I am unsure the meaning of this statement right now. I trust (preliminarily) that my Bachelor Degree is equivalent to a Bachelor Degree in Australia. On top of that Degree I also hold a Master in Science on Materials Engineering from the same institution and have published a couple of Technical Papers in International Journals. I have continued my education in Corporate Finances, Engineering, Project Management and Operational Excellence in the course of the last 10 years. I am 34 years old, turning 35 this June 2016. I come from Brazil, a country which is not signatory to any of the accepted Engineering Accords in Australia. My degree will have to be validated through a CDR (Competency Demonstration Report) and I plan to apply to my original degree: Materials Engineering, ANZSCO's Code # 233112.

Upon Graduation I have joined a Oil & Gas multinational (Provider of Subsea Equipment, US Company based in Brazil) as a Trainee Engineer and ended-up being allocated to the Procurement Division for 3 years where I have performed Technical Procurement and Supplier Project Management (my worker's record book have it as 'Supply Chain Analyst'); afterwards I was allocated on the Project Management Office, serving the first 3 years as a Project Leader (I recognize this could transtale as 'Project Engineer') and another 3 years as a Project Manager w/ Managerial responsibilities over people (my worker's record book have it as 'Project Leader' and 'Product and Project Manager' respectively); this totals 6 years in Technical Project Management. I do not know if it is relevant, but, at this company, all those positions had a mandatory requirement for an Engineering Graduate.

Well, after this long exposition, I am unsure if I can correlate that type of experience to the "nominated occupation or closely related skilled occupation" DIBP requirement. I am most positive *not* as a nominated occupation (Remember, I am considering here ANZSCO's 233112 Materials Engineer), but I have received mixed feedbacks on the "closely related skilled occupation" as I have put my technical knowledge, leadership, management, decision-making and etc. skills to the test on a daily basis. To this last point,, considering EA's Guidelines on how to write the 'Career Events', I can find substantial events through my career displaying what I understand to meet EA's requirement (based on the MSA Booklet General Guidelines) for 'Professional Engineer'.

The Questions I think of right now are:

1) Given what was explained above, can anyone provide a personal opinion if EA would find it difficult to validate my degree, as Materials Engineer? Agents if you can share your experience? I will take your answers as opinions and not as official counseling.

2) Given what was explained above, if EA does not grant me a Materials Engineering accreditation, can I pursue accreditationg in a different Engineering field, even considering what is written on my Degree? Agents if you can share your experience? I will take your answers as opinions and not as official counseling.

3) Provided I am able to meet EA's standard to a Materials Engineering, can anyone provide a personal opinion if my work experience would be eligible to claim points as a "closely related skilled occupation" to DIBP Australia? Agents if you can share your experience? I will take your answers as opinions and not as official counseling.

I ought to have more questions, they will probably surface as soon as I start seeing some clarity of thoughts.

TL : DR - Materials Engineer w/ M.Sc. in Materials Engineering has worked exclusively w/ Technical Project Management and Technical Procurement (9 years); will Engineers Australia (EA) and DIBP be able to correlate professional experience w/ study field?

I apologize for the long text. I come to this group in hopes of assistance, I have my heart set on this immigration process and want to do it precisely. Due to the financial quagmire Brazil is currently crossing, I unfortunately lack the means to invest on proper consultations and I am turning to you instead in hopes of clarifications.

Warm Regards from Rio!


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Old 05-06-2016, 08:48 PM
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a personal opinion if EA would find it difficult to validate my degree, as Materials Engineer?
Everything from EA is difficult and money / greed orientated
read this, its a little old, but you will understand
forums. whirlpool
Look for Chartered Engineer Status
Try not to deal with EA there are other institutions you could deal with. EA are not highly regarded even by there own members
1) You can gain membership with EA even if you don't have an Australia degree. You will need to submit a certified copy of your degree + transcript + CV. If you aren't eligible for membership as a Professional Engineer, then you may be offered Technologist or Officer. All three categories (PE, Tech, Officer) has membership in the grad, member, chartered and fellow levels.
2) Depending on whether you are a PE, Technologiest or Officer, you can then apply for chartered membership (CPEng, CEngT or CEngO). However, in order to be registered on NPER, you will need to be a CPEng.
Generally speaking, you should have at least 5+ years of experience before applying for chartered. Many applicants apply for the grade of member first until they get the experience to get assessed for chartered
.Engineers Australia is just one of the organisations that can assess
……………………….Otherwise try AusIMM…………………………..

if EA does not grant me a Materials Engineering accreditation, can I pursue accreditationg in a different Engineering field,

………………..try a different institution…………………

Provided I am able to meet EA's standard to a Materials Engineering....Good luck with that one The whole 'Engineers Australia' membership is designed to get $$$ from you.


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Thanks for your response, wiltorius2016.

From what I read on DIBP I believe EA is the only Institution allowed to certify my Degree for the particular ANZSCO code I am pursuing. Is that not the case?

Anyone else care to drop on the original questions and offer advise as well?

Warm Regards


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