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Old 12-28-2012, 03:09 AM
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Hey Kittykat and Melandabdul,

Should I just fill in the forms I have and go pay the fee and then deal with the rest a bit later? Im still waiting on the police clearances, having my medical on Monday...what I have pretty much gathered is the evidence of our life together for 12 months. Im in Perth so I will just go to the local immigration office here. I wasn't planning to lodge anything before the end of January as there are a lot of little nuances to our case that all need to be documented and it won't be done before the end of January.

I would love to save that $1000 tho! It looks like the life with the love of my life is going to be the most expensive thing I ever "purchased" At least it will be worth every penny!

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Old 12-28-2012, 03:37 AM
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Hey Kittykat and Melandabdul,

Should I just fill in the forms I have and go pay the fee and then deal with the rest a bit later? Im still waiting on the police clearances, having my medical on Monday...what I have pretty much gathered is the evidence of our life together for 12 months. Im in Perth so I will just go to the local immigration office here. I wasn't planning to lodge anything before the end of January as there are a lot of little nuances to our case that all need to be documented and it won't be done before the end of January.

I would love to save that $1000 tho! It looks like the life with the love of my life is going to be the most expensive thing I ever "purchased" At least it will be worth every penny!

Good luck with your animals Kittykat!
If you can do it, then do it. Medicals people often wait to be asked, as is the case with police checks. If you lack the form 888s, then put in the cover letter that they are on their way. If you at least lodge then you are in the queue and it is rare with de facto but not unheard of that being decision ready will get a quick approval. If your case isn't straightforward there is less chance that they will consider a front loaded application decision ready anyway. The quicker you lodge IMHO the quicker you will get a grant and save yourself $1000. You could even use that $1000 if it was just lying around to engage some help from a migration agent.

Make sure that you explain in your cover letter that you will send more when you have it and what is missing from your application.

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Yeah but they drive on the wrong side of the road in Australia and refuse to get out of my way when I am driving on the right side of the road, what is wrong with them???

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Hehehe oh yeah be careful with that...will take you a bit of getting used to. Plus we don't use your wonderful rule where you can turn right (it would be left here) on a red light if there is no traffic coming through. Soooo wish we picked up that rule. It would help with traffic flow I'm sure.

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Old 12-28-2012, 03:48 AM
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Hehehe oh yeah be careful with that...will take you a bit of getting used to. Plus we don't use your wonderful rule where you can turn right (it would be left here) on a red light if there is no traffic coming through. Soooo wish we picked up that rule. It would help with traffic flow I'm sure.
Yeah, my husband taught me the first time I was there that I couldn't turn on a red, where as when he drives here I have to tell him to go or he just sits at the red light...

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Old 12-28-2012, 11:38 AM
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So is this pretty much set in stone yet? Because I really hate how all news sites say there "might be" or "may be" an increase, and I have not seen any article say it with VERY clear language that it is definitely happening. Last thing I saw was it was "being proposed". If it is true, I'll just have to give up an extra paycheck, no choice really...

But I find it disgustingly unfair that they are "making people who want the opportunity to work in Australia pay for this opportunity" and then drag in the partner visa. Let me make very clear that I love Australia and am very lucky to be here but sorry guys, I am Dutch, I have a Dutch degree, I would be making much better money at home even with the crisis. I work a night customer service job here, believe me I am not enjoying special perks by not working in my homecountry. The fact that it is presumed that I am feels a little bit insulting. On top of that - no, I have not taken any Australian's job - I work at DUTCH customer service in Melbourne. The company is Australian but is also active in The Netherlands and need people who speak both languages fluently. So trust me when I say they have not lost anything to me and I have gained nothing extra from them. Sorry but that's just the truth. If I wanted financial gain I'd be back home, where my degree is recognized and I had my own place. I am not living with my parents-in-law and working a night callcentre job because I want to take advantage of Australia, I am here and gave up everything for my partner.

But I'll pay what I have to pay because that's love. That doesn't mean I agree with it, though.

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So is this pretty much set in stone yet? Because I really hate how all news sites say there "might be" or "may be" an increase, and I have not seen any article say it with VERY clear language that it is definitely happening. Last thing I saw was it was "being proposed". If it is true, I'll just have to give up an extra paycheck, no choice really...

But I find it disgustingly unfair that they are "making people who want the opportunity to work in Australia pay for this opportunity" and then drag in the partner visa. Let me make very clear that I love Australia and am very lucky to be here but sorry guys, I am Dutch, I have a Dutch degree, I would be making much better money at home even with the crisis. I work a night customer service job here, believe me I am not enjoying special perks by not working in my homecountry. The fact that it is presumed that I am feels a little bit insulting. On top of that - no, I have not taken any Australian's job - I work at DUTCH customer service in Melbourne. The company is Australian but is also active in The Netherlands and need people who speak both languages fluently. So trust me when I say they have not lost anything to me and I have gained nothing extra from them. Sorry but that's just the truth. If I wanted financial gain I'd be back home, where my degree is recognized and I had my own place. I am not living with my parents-in-law and working a night callcentre job because I want to take advantage of Australia, I am here and gave up everything for my partner.

But I'll pay what I have to pay because that's love. That doesn't mean I agree with it, though.
I'm sorry Nelly but this doesn't sound to me like someone who loves Australia and as an Aussie I found it hard not to take offense. In fact i found it quite the opposite especially since I recall reading the same complaints from you in other posts about you lower wages etc here in Oz compared to your homeland.

You are entitle to feel this way but I'm not sure how these things relate to visa price increases. And to draw the correlation that the visa fee you pay is for the opportunity to work in Australia i think is a long bow. The visa fee is payment to be assessed to see if you meet criteria to be accepted to Australia, same with the partner visa, I think the distinction is quite different. I hope you can somehow find a way to come to peace with where you are or find a solution that is more situable to you.


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Old 12-29-2012, 02:50 AM
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I'm sorry Nelly but this doesn't sound to me like someone who loves Australia and as an Aussie I found it hard not to take offense. In fact i found it quite the opposite especially since I recall reading the same complaints from you in other posts about you lower wages etc here in Oz compared to your homeland.

You are entitle to feel this way but I'm not sure how these things relate to visa price increases. And to draw the correlation that the visa fee you pay is for the opportunity to work in Australia i think is a long bow. The visa fee is payment to be assessed to see if you meet criteria to be accepted to Australia, same with the partner visa, I think the distinction is quite different. I hope you can somehow find a way to come to peace with where you are or find a solution that is more situable to you.
I just got back from a trip to The Netherlands and I realized how much I've come to love Australia, I have, I really have (I was as excited to go back to Aus as I was to visit my family) - but I feel like I'm always being made to pay for falling in love with someone from another country - I don't see why that doesn't relate to the rising prices. The wages are higher here, yes, but that is not a reason for me to live somewhere. On my way home I ran into someone on a stopover who was living in Oz solely because he was getting paid more, and went home every year to spend it at home in France. The pay may be good but having work you actually care about would be more important to me.

It's just always felt like there is no end to the pressure - just because we're from different countries we've always had to give something up one way or another. That is painful sometimes. It was painful to see him miss his family when we were in the Netherlands and it is painful now to see my parents crying at the airport. It's never without a price so I hope you do understand that for some of us, maybe that causes some bitterness. And the bitterness may not always be reasonable, but I hope you can see it doesn't exactly get less by being made to pay more money you wanted to use to finally be able to start your future together.

EDIT: I really did not mean for anyone to take offense but you have to understand there is nowhere else I can talk about this. If I talk about this to my partner, I make him feel very bad. Don't get me wrong your country is beautiful and you Aussies are definitely very lucky people, but you have to understand that for me it was never really about Australia, it was about my partner, and wherever that takes me I'll go. This, and the additional pressure overtime, has made my process of coming to appreciate Australia a slow one as I always felt like I was defending myself or paying a price. I have come to love Australia but unless you've been in this position (and maybe you have and we're just different kinds of people) it's hard to explain the double sentiment.

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Nelly I do understand your situation and I do feel your pain. I have to appologise for my reaction because I guess it triggered something in me when i was pondering on how lucky you are to be here in our wonderful country and so many of us, me included, would do anything to have our loved ones here living in whatever condition just so we could be together.

This process is so hard for us all, it makes us all sensitive and feel embattled. I would just encourage you to try and find the good amongst the difficult. The beauracy will always feel unfair and unwielding but let's not let it shape us or affected us in any long term way xxx


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Old 12-29-2012, 05:59 AM
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No I am sorry - I just spent a few hours thinking about it, because I do take this (Australia and being welcome and feeling not welcome sometimes) very seriously. I think I have to disclose that it might not help that I am living with my in-laws: the people who designed/invented the "Fuck Off We're Full" sticker. That's not just an expression - they actually did make that sticker. So I guess even though they are good to me it makes me feel more defensive than I should sometimes.

I do feel very lucky to be here, I just feel the urge to make the point that I am not here to take advantage of the country at all, in fact I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for my partner - not because it isn't wonderful here but because it is such a struggle to have to start over from zero.


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No I am sorry - I just spent a few hours thinking about it, because I do take this (Australia and being welcome and feeling not welcome sometimes) very seriously. I think I have to disclose that it might not help that I am living with my in-laws: the people who designed/invented the "Fuck Off We're Full" sticker. That's not just an expression - they actually did make that sticker. So I guess even though they are good to me it makes me feel more defensive than I should sometimes.

I do feel very lucky to be here, I just feel the urge to make the point that I am not here to take advantage of the country at all, in fact I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for my partner - not because it isn't wonderful here but because it is such a struggle to have to start over from zero.
Oh my goodness!!!! I would feel so uneasy knowing that I was living in a house with people who designed/invented that sticker my love! I see it around from time to time and it makes me very, very sad when I do. I think of all the great things we have to offer as a country and all of the wonderful
things immigrants have added to our culture and my heart breaks.

I think it is just ignorance and fear that make people think that way and I believe any reasonable person would feel and act the same way as you in your situation. But I guess what I want to say to you is you don't need to though. You are acceptable and you are ok just because of who you are! You don't need to prove yourself and you don't need to justify that you are not taking a job or a house or a position of an "Australian" because most Australians would hopefully not think that way and you have EVERY right to be here...because you have earned your place as much as anyone has.

I know starting from zero is hard and being far from the people that you love, the country you grew up in and the culture you knew is tough but this too can become home...a different kind of home, a second home of sorts and one that you will proudly call home I hope and one that you will feel a sense of ownership of and for in time because in the end the only true Australians are actually the Aboriginals so we are ALL immigrants in one way or another!!!!

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