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Old 12-22-2012, 06:06 PM
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Thanks alot for the information It now all makes sense

I will speak to our bank on Monday and see if I can open a joint bank account without my partner being here, she will also come here in February, but I will get the account open before then. you will have to wait until she gets there and use her current name

And when asked for marital status, what do I use for that on any application for a new joint account/bills etc even though we arent engaged yet? As above, you can describe her as your partner/spouse but she will use her current name

I will also get the account statement mailed to me and to her in Dubai, and I hope that is good. It wouldn't hurt, but you need to get evidence when she is actually there with you. That is what will count the most

Maybe I should also get my credit card statement mailed to her to from the bank, but the card is in my name - is that also good enough?? I don't think the banks will like sending stuff overseas

I do her have original passport copy, hopefully that will help.

Can I also get my mobile bill/car insurance/rego bills changed now too - is that a good idea? I don't have any utility bills under my name, I live with my parents and its under their name. Try them all!

I just put down a deposit for an engagement ring today, and I sure will be keeping a receipt of that and will get her to do the same Yep, good move

And plus, what do you suggest for chat via fb and whatsapp, just screen caps of all the conversations we have been doing since we started, or is there anything in particular I should grab from the chats? Screen shot per month, nothing sexual, no fights and try and include where you are making plans for your future life together....

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KttyKat, oooppssss, to make it more complicated now... I have just been told that myself and my partner will not be getting engaged here but doing a Nikah ( Arabic term for a legal marriage), and the wedding ceremony will be taking place in Dubai.

What this means is, our marriage will be legally registered here in Aus, when my partner comes here.

Now Im thinking I will need to apply for a Subclass 820 – Partner (temporary).

Im confusing myself now lol... please help :/

Once our marriage is publicly registered with the Births, Deaths and Marriages here in WA, she will be going back to Dubai and we will have our wedding ceremony there in Dubai.


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KttyKat, oooppssss, to make it more complicated now... I have just been told that myself and my partner will not be getting engaged here but doing a Nikah ( Arabic term for a legal marriage), and the wedding ceremony will be taking place in Dubai.

What this means is, our marriage will be legally registered here in Aus, when my partner comes here.

Now Im thinking I will need to apply for a Subclass 820 – Partner (temporary).

Im confusing myself now lol... please help :/

Once our marriage is publicly registered with the Births, Deaths and Marriages here in WA, she will be going back to Dubai and we will have our wedding ceremony there in Dubai.
Well you have me confused, but if you apply onshore then yes an 820 is what you are going for. The good news is when you apply onshore then she stays onshore, with a bridging visa.

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Well you have me confused, but if you apply onshore then yes an 820 is what you are going for. The good news is when you apply onshore then she stays onshore, with a bridging visa.

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Ok I will explain it in a much simpler way lol, so please bear with me:

1.) Met the girl and her family in Dubai in December
2.) Both parties agreed to a Nikah ( Arabic term for a legal marriage)
3.) Girl and her parents fly over her in Feb
4.) We preform a Nikah which should be legally registered here at the marriage register office
5.) Girl and her parents fly back to Dubai
6.) My family and I fly to Dubai in September
7.) Wedding ceremony takes place in Dubai
8.) I stay in Dubai for 4 weeks or so with the girl
9.) I fly back to Perth

I hope this makes sense :/

Now, Im wondering, this the marriage will hopefully be legally registered here in Perth, shall I apply for a Subclass 309 – Partner (provisional) when I am in Dubai or shall I apply for a Subclass 820 – Partner (temporary) in Perth.

As the wedding ceremony will take place in Dubai, is it better to wait until then, even though the marriage should be legally registered here in Perth in February.

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Old 12-23-2012, 04:32 AM
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Ok I will explain it in a much simpler way lol, so please bear with me:

1.) Met the girl and her family in Dubai in December
2.) Both parties agreed to a Nikah ( Arabic term for a legal marriage)
3.) Girl and her parents fly over her in Feb
4.) We preform a Nikah which should be legally registered here at the marriage register office
5.) Girl and her parents fly back to Dubai
6.) My family and I fly to Dubai in September
7.) Wedding ceremony takes place in Dubai
8.) I stay in Dubai for 4 weeks or so with the girl
9.) I fly back to Perth

I hope this makes sense :/

Now, Im wondering, this the marriage will hopefully be legally registered here in Perth, shall I apply for a Subclass 309 – Partner (provisional) when I am in Dubai or shall I apply for a Subclass 820 – Partner (temporary) in Perth.

As the wedding ceremony will take place in Dubai, is it better to wait until then, even though the marriage should be legally registered here in Perth in February.

Thanks
OK for the 820 SHE must be in Australia, she is the applicant, you sponsor her application. If she is in Dubai then 309, if she is in Australia then 820.

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OK for the 820 SHE must be in Australia, she is the applicant, you sponsor her application. If she is in Dubai then 309, if she is in Australia then 820.

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Yeah I think the Subclass 309 – Partner (provisional) would best be suited to our situation, and will apply for it once after the wedding ceremony in Dubai.

So back to the conditions now:

To be eligible for a Partner visa on the basis of your marriage, you must:
• be sponsored by an eligible person (see ‘Sponsorship eligibility’ on page 14) - which would be me
• be legally married to your partner (usually your sponsor); not an issue
• show that you and your partner have a mutual commitment to a shared life as husband and wife to the exclusion of all others; - will a marriage certificate be enough for this?
• show that you have a genuine and continuing relationship with your partner - I think this has been covered
• show that you and your partner are living together or, if not, that any separation is only temporary; - Since we wont be living together for at least from Feb - September, phone calls records/emails/screenshots of chats etc should be enough hopefully
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• meet health and character requirements (see pages 19–21) - shouldn't be an issue

Should my partner apply for the Subclass 309 – Partner (provisional) as soon as she is back in Dubai, or do you suggest we wait until the wedding ceremony?

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Yeah I think the Subclass 309 – Partner (provisional) would best be suited to our situation, and will apply for it once after the wedding ceremony in Dubai.

So back to the conditions now:

To be eligible for a Partner visa on the basis of your marriage, you must:
• be sponsored by an eligible person (see ‘Sponsorship eligibility’ on page 14) - which would be me Yeah
• be legally married to your partner (usually your sponsor); not an issue
• show that you and your partner have a mutual commitment to a shared life as husband and wife to the exclusion of all others; - will a marriage certificate be enough for this? Not by itself, that is where all the other evidence comes in
• show that you have a genuine and continuing relationship with your partner - I think this has been covered
• show that you and your partner are living together or, if not, that any separation is only temporary; - Since we wont be living together for at least from Feb - September, phone calls records/emails/screenshots of chats etc should be enough hopefully
and
• meet health and character requirements (see pages 19–21) - shouldn't be an issue

Should my partner apply for the Subclass 309 – Partner (provisional) as soon as she is back in Dubai, or do you suggest we wait until the wedding ceremony? wait until after the wedding

Cheers
Good luck, yet again I think you have it...

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Good luck, yet again I think you have it...

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kittykat, you have been more than helpful, I would so give you a hug if I see you

I think Im sure I will have more questions by the time this ordeal process begins.

Next week, I shall start doing simple things like getting names changed on my car insurance, super beneficiary, phone/internet bill.

I will then also open a joint bank account when she is here.

By the way, should I have a will prepared now in Aus before I leave for my wedding next year or get it prepared when my partner is here ?

The only little thing I am worried about is the "The nature of the household" criteria, since we both wont be living together for a little while even until after the wedding, as I will be flying back to Perth due to my work commitments.

Although, I did read somewhere else that, if she would be living with my parents for a while in Aus when she is here with me, a council rate bill ( as the home is owned by my parents )should be provided with an explanation that we both shouldn't have any issues with joint responsibilities, as we will be living in our parents house for a while while together, but my bills like phone/internet/car rego/insurance will be shared amongst my partner and me.

And plus, we will be sharing the application fee when lodged in Dubai so that itself would maybe tiny little bit.

Is that a good solution to the "The nature of the household"?

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kittykat, you have been more than helpful, I would so give you a hug if I see you

I think Im sure I will have more questions by the time this ordeal process begins.

Next week, I shall start doing simple things like getting names changed on my car insurance, super beneficiary, phone/internet bill.

I will then also open a joint bank account when she is here.

By the way, should I have a will prepared now in Aus before I leave for my wedding next year or get it prepared when my partner is here ?

The only little thing I am worried about is the "The nature of the household" criteria, since we both wont be living together for a little while even until after the wedding, as I will be flying back to Perth due to my work commitments.

Although, I did read somewhere else that, if she would be living with my parents for a while in Aus when she is here with me, a council rate bill ( as the home is owned by my parents )should be provided with an explanation that we both shouldn't have any issues with joint responsibilities, as we will be living in our parents house for a while while together, but my bills like phone/internet/car rego/insurance will be shared amongst my partner and me.

And plus, we will be sharing the application fee when lodged in Dubai so that itself would maybe tiny little bit.

Is that a good solution to the "The nature of the household"?

Thanks
Do as much as you can. Each case is different and immigration knows that. Statutory declarations from family about your circumstances will be important in your case as well as the statements that you and your partner also make. At least in your case the time before your application will give you time to make a good case. In most cases we have a relationship without the thought of proving it at a later date to another party, in your case you have time to take photos and get documentation together and good on you for thinking ahead and not waiting until you apply to having all the evidence to prove it.

A little known fact is that when you marry is that all wills before that are deemed null and void, get a will together after you marry.

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Just got in touch with a few companies to get some of my bills ownership changed over to myself and partners name, and boy is that a headache!

It will be so much easier when she will be here in February, as things can be done in person, but the super beneficiary is easy, just a form to fill and away I go.

What I was also thinking was, opening a joint bank account here in Aus when she is here in February, , transfer all my bills under my partner name, with me being a secondary contact, and have direct debit payment setup on those bill accounts pointing to our joint account.

Like this, I can make contributions to our joint account, and the bills payments will come out of those.

I will also get my car registration changed over to our name, just have to pay a transfer fee.

Am I heading in the right direction?


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