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820/801 Visa Progress - Feedback and Ideas needed please :-)


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Old 06-07-2016, 09:32 AM
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820/801 Visa Progress - Feedback and Ideas needed please :-)

Hi Everyone,

Im new here but have been coming back and forth for some tips every now and then. What a great little community this is!

A pre-warning. This is going to be a tad long so if you are not up for an in-depth read I suggest stopping now

Before I start I want to give you some background of our application.

Im the Aussie and my same sex partner and I met in the UK while I was on holiday in London. We grew close very quickly and he came to Australia a couple of months later for a 10 day holiday because we really missed each other. 10 days doesn't seem much but he only had that much leave. We spoke in depth, he wasn't in a good place in England, we loved each other so we decided he should come back on a working holiday visa a couple of months later in September 2014. We did this so we could live together and see how things went knowing he had the ability to settle in with a job etc. Although we already knew we loved each other when he came here to live, our relationship didn't really start until then. We were very mindful of the 'dating period' so thought it was best to let immigration know the start date of the relationship was when he moved in with me.

As planned we declared our love for one another to the State quite quickly and applied for the 820/801 visa just short of 12 months later in August 2015. As his Working holiday visa was about to expire and being a few weeks short of the 'together for 12 month rule', we took advantage of the waiver by producing a Registered Relationship Certificate from the Queensland Government. If you are not aware, there is a waiver in place to the 12 month rule if you have registered your relationship to the government.

So, all has been honky-dory for the last (almost) 2 years and we have been uploading bits and pieces of evidence to the online portal over the last few months. Immigration sent a automated email not long ago advising the application has progressed in the que so we should finalise any missing documents....

I called Immigration today to ask if they had received my partners Police Check from England (we asked ACRO to send it directly to save time).
She said they hadn't but not to worry as it can take some time for them to update it in the system.

Heres the problem part !! ; as I was asking some questions about the Visa I told her that we still have a few more bits of evidence to upload. She was quick to tell me that we have done it all wrong and that we should have sent all the evidence in as a COMPLETE PACKAGE. Absolutely stupid on my part. Last time I spoke to immigration they told me that I have 12 to 18 months to gather evidence and upload to the portal. Stupid me assumed that I could upload bits and pieces over time. WRONG!
Anyway, the lady on the phone suggested that the way I have done it is quite dangerous because the department may assess the application at any point (even a bit earlier than the 12 to 18 month range) and if things are missing they may reject the application

Does anybody have experience or horror stories about this kind of situation? I don't want to freak myself out but it would be nice to hear your feedback.

So the horror phone call was a few hours ago now and I have been strapped to the beast (the computer) all afternoon frantically uploading heaps of stuff. Ill add here that the online portal is quite handy because it ticks things off a list as you upload.

Generally speaking, if immigration are ahead of schedule and decide to review our application quite early, say tomorrow, and there are things missing..... Will they request more information or would they just refuse the application based on what I have provided?
Something that may save us at this point; Immigration did say not to do the health check until they request it because they expire quite quickly. They haven't requested it yet so surely they won't assess the application until they have asked for the health check?
Thoughts please....

Now for the other issues that lots of people seem to talk about on here!!
I don't know what is too much and what is not enough.
We don't have joint utilities however to compensate that I have provided
*our 'couples BUPA policy' addressed to us both at the same address
*our car insurance cover letters showing we are both policy holders at the same address.

On top of that, joint savings account statements and a stamped letter from Westpac declaring that my other half is a secondary card holder to my credit card.

Do you think that those types of evidence should be enough? The only reason why we don't have joint utilities is because the house belongs to my grandmother. We don't pay rent but we just pay all of the utility bills that come in. She has also written a letter explaining our arrangement.

As far as other relationship related documents go, I have provided our travel itineraries for the last two years. I have been to England and met/stayed with his family two times along with countless holidays around the world. I work in the airlines so we are very well travelled!

Another small issue that we can kind of get around; I have seen people on here say immigration wanted envelopes addressed to us both at the same address.... I read those stories a bit late because when I open mail I tend to throw the envelopes away! We have asked friends and family to send us some mail to collect a few envelopes but it seems a little stupid to me. Why would immigration want envelopes considering I could go down the road and send myself some?? This isn't what I'm doing but I don't get the logic of it....

Anyway, I'm a stressed crazy gay man trying to get all this stuff done. I am worried but not worried at the same time because I think I have uploaded the bare minimum at this point. I just need to beef it up now.

Any tips or feedback would be wonderful as I am bound to forget something!

Serves us/me right for being stupid and unorganised


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The immigration officer is correct - the evidence should be upload at the beginning because they can make a decision at any time. DIBP are also under no obligation to ask for additional documents, alot do ask for additional documents but they don't have to.

Usually what people do is they upload all the docs at the beginning and then attach additional evidence through the process.

The police check should have been sent to you because there is always the possibility that it can get lost somewhere in DIBP.

The envelopes don't need to addressed to both of you per say, you can have one address to you and then another one addressed to your partner. It is to show that you both live at the same address. Junk mail is also good to use showing you live at the same address.

Did you provide a statement from your grandmother about you living at her house? That kinda of statement is good but better to be a stat dec because they are legally binding.


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The immigration officer is correct - the evidence should be upload at the beginning because they can make a decision at any time. DIBP are also under no obligation to ask for additional documents, alot do ask for additional documents but they don't have to.

Usually what people do is they upload all the docs at the beginning and then attach additional evidence through the process.

The police check should have been sent to you because there is always the possibility that it can get lost somewhere in DIBP.

The envelopes don't need to addressed to both of you per say, you can have one address to you and then another one addressed to your partner. It is to show that you both live at the same address. Junk mail is also good to use showing you live at the same address.

Did you provide a statement from your grandmother about you living at her house? That kinda of statement is good but better to be a stat dec because they are legally binding.

Thanks so much Mish,

I completely understand about the uploading process. Unfortunately at the time I assumed that I had twelve months to do it. As per my post I am glad I have uploaded the bare essentials so far. If they looked at it tomorrow I think I would be fine. At this stage I am missing only minor things that will beef up the application.

Thanks for the envelope feedback. I attached 3 months of mobile phone bills already, not with joint names but they do show address in common. I would really like to beef up the application with some other things you speak of though. Do you think the BUPA health statements and car insurance papers were a good move?

I really appreciate your response.


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Oh, and no, Nan's letter was a normal letter and hand written. I will ask her to do it in the form of a stat dec!


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BUPA and car insurance is good. Also another piece of evidence is showing that you have listed each other as partners on your tax return. There is also super beneficiary.

Those are just a few other ideas incase you haven't considered them.


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