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Old 01-03-2013, 01:38 AM
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Hi Js8 -

Best to get as close as you can if an exact date is not known. Some people will use a season ("Summer 2011") or a month (July 2011) if not known. If only a year is known, then that's all you can use.

DIAC seems to put far less importance on original meetings online (perhaps as evidenced by the deletion of the question that referred to that on Form 47SP in November 2012), and focuses much more on when you actually met in person and become known to each other. But if a significant portion of the relationship was online-only without a first physical meeting, then it's important to include that in your statements and consider referring to important events that might have brought the two of you closer (perhaps significant events in either of your lives that you shared with each other - can be good events or sad events, doesn't matter) even though you had only met online.

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This message is for MArk. Regarding writing statements. My partner and I don't know which exact date we meant but it was a holiday then. So is it safe to write down years and not exact dates. Anyway, when I checked my yahoo for dates, they weren't there anymore and I cannot backtrack the exchange of emails we had. I didn't know about archives that time. So it would be difficult for us to attach documents that support that real first meet up online. I am writing my relationship history as we speak. I hope you can help me on this area. My partner is an Australian. Thank you.

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I am actually now in Australia under a tourist visa. I will have to come back home soon then we plan to submit the PMV when I come back in April on my next visit. I noted your Nov2012 form which I am particular about forms being updated on some months. In 40sp it says here on item number 9 when and where you first meet---after a few mind bending extraction it meant our online first meet up as it was supported on the next item number 10 regarding the first PHYSICAL meet up. However on my 47sp, item number 66 when and where we first meet----I am not sure if I will answer the one online or the physical meet?then if internet, then I will just write under place as ONLINE right?

I am only applying for PMV so I will not answer about question 70 about why we aren't living together or have not lived together right? although, while on tourist visa, I live with him now as we speak. so I do not have to answer it right?

I just like to fill these forms before I leave so when I come back we can lodge the application in Au and not in the Phils.

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Hi Js8 -

You are not working with the current set of forms based on your last msg - strongly suggest you re-download all forms. On 40SP, 47SP and 80, look at the very bottom of the forms and make sure the form date is Nov 2012. Here's a link to a list of forms for download, sorted by form number:

Application Forms – Numerical List – Forms 1 to 99

Also, note that the applicant must be offshore (outside Australia) when the PMV application is lodged, and when it is granted, so you cannot apply for this visa when you are in Australia.

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Is that correct? We went to Hobart with a friend who was going to extend her visa with her partner and they were told that they can lodge an application in Au. Or was he pertaining to a different visa type? I got confused now.

I am downloading the new form now. By the way the form, I am using now only says 2012 no November. Anyway, I am checking on it now. Grazie!


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I'm not being as nice as you, Nelly. lol. I am making him write his statement before showing him mine because I want it to be obvious that they are in each of our own words, respectively. Haha. Once we've both written ours separately, we'll compare and make sure we have all our dates correct on both documents. It will be interesting to see what he comes up with!
Hahaha good point! Our stories are very different either way though - and my partner did not want to write without me checking as he is insecure about his writing (didn't finish highschool so fairly insecure about his intellectual capabilities even though he's really smart) so he purposely wanted me to be there when writing it to make sure it looked okay - it looked great... really had no idea how good a writer he was and neither did he!

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Hi Js8 -

Re: Forms, at the bottom of the form you'll see a month in addition to the year - based on the numbering of the questions in your previous post, you're definitely using outdated forms.

Re: Where the applicant must be at lodging, that differs from one visa subclass to another. But for the subclass 300 Prospective Marriage Visa, the applicant must be outside Australia at application, and outside Australia at grant. Here's the link if you want more on this:

Prospective Marriage Visa (Subclass 300)

The Australian visa system is complex and unforgiving - to get the best chance of success, it's vital that you carefully go over all the requirements and prepare your docs and info to address each requirement. Also note that as this visa is processed at the Embassy or post nearest to the applicant's home country, that Embassy or post may have additional requirements (usually documents such as a local certificate of eligibility to marry, etc) that are added to the standard DIAC checklist for a particular visa type.

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Oh dear, yes you are correct at lodging the application OUTSIDE Au for PMV. I went through the booklet and the guide to the forms as well. My mind was set on the partner visa and not on the fiancé visa so I got confused. Thank you for setting me on the right track. I am momentarily multi-tasking----putting evidences together, drafting statements and browsing online as well. Whew!

Although I was still holding on to the immi guy who said that we can apply PMV in Au unless he meant AFTER the wedding, we can apply for the next stage which is the partner visa in Au.

This is why I needed a forum like this to be clear with what I am doing. Thank you once again.


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Correct - you can apply for the partner visa onshore or offshore, but you must be offshore to apply for the PMV.

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For a partner visa, if you have a straight forward case, can read detailed instructions and follow a check list, you can do it yourself. Just spend the time to check and double check everything...

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I am on the updated formats of 40sp and 47sp. Here are the new queries:

40sp
1. item number 23-when did you and the applicant commit to a shared life together to the exclusion of all others? WE WROTE DOWN THE DATE OF THE ENGAGEMENT HOWEVER WE WERE CONFUSED ON THE NEXT ITEM WHICH ASKS:

2. item number 24-since you and the applicant committed to a shared life together to the exclusion of all others, have you lived separately and apart for any periods of time?
WE HAVE BEEN SEEING EACH OTHER FOR 3 YRS ALREADY BUT ONLY ONE VISIT A YEAR WITH 2WKS TO A MONTH DURATION. SHOULD I PUT THE DATE OF THE FIRST MEETING OR THE DATE OF ENGAGEMENT?

3. AND DO WE NEED TO PUT YES FOR THE ITEM NO.24 THEN GIVE REASONS WHY WE WERE SEPARATED---well only because both of us have to go back to our own daily routines. but we always communicate through yahoo messenger.

47sp

1. I just want to double check if item no.24 the address for processing second stage visa is the address of my partner in Australia.

2.part f-my partner's siblings are born in Australia so what will I put under immigration status? permanent?

3.item no. 67 did your partner obtain permanent residency in au under the following visa PARTNER, PMV, ----my partner was born in au so I will tick NO right?

4. item no. 73--since I never lived in any country, can I just write down January 01, 2003-25 October 2012 --because I am in au in the months not listed onwards.


I know some of my questions seem easy but I just need confirmation on them. Thank you for your support Mark.


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