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While significant age differences (10+ yrs) are considered a "risk factor" by DIAC partner processing, it's only part of the picture - only one of the factors. Length of relationship and the quality of the relationship (as shown by evidence) are other critical factors. If sufficient evidence is provided of a genuine relationship, age alone is not a reason for refusal.

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Honey I don't think this is a problem at all. I just asked cos I have seen where they have used age difference as a reason to refuse a visa...well one of the reason.
yes i know when age has a big difference they can be very strict, and to be honest it did pass through my head lol.

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There is an age difference of 7 years with me and my love so I guess when I saw this I paid attention but I can't fathom how they can draw such a conclusion to be honest. The age difference of the couple I know got rejected and age was one of the factors it was 14 years.
wow 14 years isnt allot really when you think about it, a much older man with a younger women or vice versa i can understand but not 14 years. I think it depends on the CO and how there mind works to be honest. A very dear friend of mine used to work in the AU embassy here in Malta and once she let a visa pass through the guy was in his 70,s and the girl was only 30, but they truly did love each other, he was broke which to be honest went in the girls favour as my friend knew there wasnt a financial gain to her application.

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Please know I am not making a judgement in asking..I am asking so I can help you understand what I know I have seen as issues with others applications.
I know your not judgemental hun and i wouldnt think bad of your comment, its a true fact your saying and yes its certainly something that i had already thought of. I thank you for your comment. At the end of the day others can learn from this post also not just me lol.

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To me age is not a factor in love.
Age shouldnt count but unfortunatly as you have said some one was declined partly to do with age. Once again i do believe that it depends on the Co at the time.

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While significant age differences (10+ yrs) are considered a "risk factor" by DIAC partner processing, it's only part of the picture - only one of the factors. Length of relationship and the quality of the relationship (as shown by evidence) are other critical factors. If sufficient evidence is provided of a genuine relationship, age alone is not a reason for refusal.
Hi Mark as usuall you always give us proffesional advice lol, i thank you. I didnt realize 10yrs+ was a factor. Both Kevin and i have 10 years between us but with all the evidence we have shown i hope its not a factor that will allow the CO to come back with a declined verdict lol. I must PM you lol.

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Hi Louise - From the info you've shared on the forum, I don't think the age difference will be a problem in your case - all the detailed work you put in on relationship evidence will pay off, I'll bet.

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While significant age differences (10+ yrs) are considered a "risk factor" by DIAC partner processing, it's only part of the picture - only one of the factors. Length of relationship and the quality of the relationship (as shown by evidence) are other critical factors. If sufficient evidence is provided of a genuine relationship, age alone is not a reason for refusal.
Thank you Mark...this is the figure I have been trying to find out. 10 years + it is. And as I mentioned...it is not the only reason they rejected this couple...but in my mind all of the other reasons were as "flimsy"...but they must have appealed as they are now living together in Oz 8-)


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yes i know when age has a big difference they can be very strict, and to be honest it did pass through my head lol.

wow 14 years isnt allot really when you think about it, a much older man with a younger women or vice versa i can understand but not 14 years. I think it depends on the CO and how there mind works to be honest. A very dear friend of mine used to work in the AU embassy here in Malta and once she let a visa pass through the guy was in his 70,s and the girl was only 30, but they truly did love each other, he was broke which to be honest went in the girls favour as my friend knew there wasnt a financial gain to her application.

I know your not judgemental hun and i wouldnt think bad of your comment, its a true fact your saying and yes its certainly something that i had already thought of. I thank you for your comment. At the end of the day others can learn from this post also not just me lol.

Age shouldnt count but unfortunatly as you have said some one was declined partly to do with age. Once again i do believe that it depends on the Co at the time.

Thank you Louise
Honey I always worry sharing information like this as I dont want you to worry as I have worried in the past...but I think I would rather know so I take the approach that you might also like to know.

Love can take many forms and they are looking from a non emotive perspective. In the end I think it is good to understand but try not to let it affect us too much as we can get ourselves really in a bind.

Mark and Boboa always bring a good balanced approach to my emotional thinking which I really appreciate.

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Honey I always worry sharing information like this as I dont want you to worry as I have worried in the past...but I think I would rather know so I take the approach that you might also like to know.

Love can take many forms and they are looking from a non emotive perspective. In the end I think it is good to understand but try not to let it affect us too much as we can get ourselves really in a bind.

Mark and Boboa always bring a good balanced approach to my emotional thinking which I really appreciate.
Melandabdul you never worry me with your comments i know from both you and mark sometimes my concerns are uncalled for after you both eplain things in a more rational manner. Oh boy these CO,s really dont know how much worry and stress they leave us with, lol. I would love to be a CO because i wouldnt have it in my heart to leave people worrying or stressing all the time, me i,d give em all a visa, especailly you guys.

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Thank you Mark...this is the figure I have been trying to find out. 10 years + it is. And as I mentioned...it is not the only reason they rejected this couple...but in my mind all of the other reasons were as "flimsy"...but they must have appealed as they are now living together in Oz 8-)
Just FYI ... my husand is Balinese, they dont have records of date of birth etc. his parents made up a date that theoretically makes him 15yrs younger than me ...lol. We have been together for 2 yrs and we have a business together in Bali and he also had spent alot of time in Oz on tourist visa. We had our 309 approved late Oct. So please dont focus too much on this as a reason for refusal....


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Just FYI ... my husand is Balinese, they dont have records of date of birth etc. his parents made up a date that theoretically makes him 15yrs younger than me ...lol. We have been together for 2 yrs and we have a business together in Bali and he also had spent alot of time in Oz on tourist visa. We had our 309 approved late Oct. So please dont focus too much on this as a reason for refusal....
Oh thanks for sharing this Baligirl. it is good to see the other side of the coin as I do know of people where this has been quoted as ONE of the reasons for refusal.

It just goes to show that each and every case is so very different and so are the CO's that are applying the rules to each case.

I read something very interested recently that during 2010 - 2011 69% of refused partner visa that were taken to the review tribunal by the applicants had the decision overturned by the tribunal and were remitted back to the Department. 69%!!!!!!!!!

Not this doesn't mean that they got an approved visa in the end, it just means that the reason they were rejected was seen to be unfit and overturned and the visa went back to the department to continue being processed.

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Oh thanks for sharing this Baligirl. it is good to see the other side of the coin as I do know of people where this has been quoted as ONE of the reasons for refusal.

It just goes to show that each and every case is so very different and so are the CO's that are applying the rules to each case.

I read something very interested recently that during 2010 - 2011 69% of refused partner visa that were taken to the review tribunal by the applicants had the decision overturned by the tribunal and were remitted back to the Department. 69%!!!!!!!!!

Not this doesn't mean that they got an approved visa in the end, it just means that the reason they were rejected was seen to be unfit and overturned and the visa went back to the department to continue being processed.
Hi Melandabdul
do you have any idea how long it takes for a refusal to be decided upon, i heard that it can take months, like starting the application all over again, imagine waiting months and months and then having a refusal and then having to wait months again. I also heard that it if refused it goes back to your CO again.

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