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Old 01-13-2013, 05:58 AM
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Unhappy 457/187 finding occupation.

Hi all
Ok so I'm new to this sight and just looking for some help about visas ,it's all so confusing!
Basically Im on a working hol visa from Ireland at the minute and have been offered 457 or 187 sponsorship by an electrial and homewares company where im currenly a sales assistant.

Back home I went straight into retail after finishing school and worked my way upto store manager in a boutique where I held that position for five years, I have also completed a course in visual merchandising but neither of the two seem to matter because there not on the occupations list.
I know there not on the list because there's not much demand for retail managers because of the economicglobal downturn but surely there would be some exceptions as I'm living in a very rural town full of tradies and farmers and my employer has really been struggling to find suitable staff that are prepared to stay in town longer than a few months?

I seen on the occupations list that you can be granted sponsorship as a customer service manager although I've no actual qualifications in this it's not a million miles away from what my position was back home..
I'm willing to put myself through a course to up skill or gain qualifications needed but is it possible to do so while being sponsored?

My employer has never sponsored anyone before but is very keen to do so.
Can anyone advise me on what my options are?
Any help greatly appreciated.

J


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Old 01-13-2013, 07:35 AM
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Hi Jenka -

Based on what you've said so far, a 457 sponsorship sounds like it might be the best bet. This type of visa involves 3 steps:

1. Employer becomes a Standard Business Sponsor (business qualifies for sponsoring international employees)

2. Employer lodges a nomination for the open position - includes info on the position, salary, etc. Salary must be comparable to market rate, and market rate must be $51,500 per year or higher.

3. Visa applicant lodges application for a visa to fill the position.

Customer Service Manager is probably the closest occupation on the current 457 occupation list (the CSOL) - if you've spent some years in retail management, it can be possible to qualify for this, however if you don't have a degree or educational qualification, they'll look at the years of experience you have.

I can have a look at your CV and see how it fits with the requirements if you'd like - feel free to PM me here or email [email protected]

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Old 05-05-2013, 11:57 AM
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Hi everyone,

I am confused with this from DIAC website regarding RSMS 187 :

"If you hold a substantive visa when you make a valid application for the ENS or RSMS visa, you are likely to be granted a Bridging visa A. However, if you do not hold a substantive visa but a Bridging visa A or Bridging visa C, you are likely to be granted a Bridging visa C.

I am on bridging visa A. Does that mean if my employer sponsor me I will be granted a bridging visa C? and bridging visa C doesnt have any work rights so I wont be able to work?

It does not make any sense to me. Can anyone shed some light on this for me please?

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Hi Wiseman -

Lodging a further visa application while already on a bridging visa brings into play a rather complicated part of the migration regulations.Can you specify:

1. When you last held a substantive (non-bridging) visa?
2. What type of a visa application your current bridging visa was issued for?

I may be able to assist with the above info.

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Hi everyone,

I am confused with this from DIAC website regarding RSMS 187 :

"If you hold a substantive visa when you make a valid application for the ENS or RSMS visa, you are likely to be granted a Bridging visa A. However, if you do not hold a substantive visa but a Bridging visa A or Bridging visa C, you are likely to be granted a Bridging visa C.

I am on bridging visa A. Does that mean if my employer sponsor me I will be granted a bridging visa C? and bridging visa C doesnt have any work rights so I wont be able to work?

It does not make any sense to me. Can anyone shed some light on this for me please?

Regards,

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Hi Mark

I last held student visa 1.5 years ago and applied for partner temporary and permanent visa and hold a bridging visa A currently.

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Hi Wiseman -

Lodging a further visa application while already on a bridging visa brings into play a rather complicated part of the migration regulations.Can you specify:

1. When you last held a substantive (non-bridging) visa?
2. What type of a visa application your current bridging visa was issued for?

I may be able to assist with the above info.

Best,

Mark Northam


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Old 05-05-2013, 03:01 PM
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Hi Wiseman -

As long as you have not received a decision on the partner visa, your BV-A associated with that will remain in effect even if you lodge another application for the 187 visa. The BV-C for the 187 (which you can apply to have work rights for if you wish) will remain dormant "underneath" the BV-A until the partner visa decision. Once the partner visa decision has been made, 28 days later the BV-A will cease and the BV-C (assuming you lodged a 187 application sometime during the BV-A's currency) will automatically activate so you're covered. You can then make an application for work rights for the BV-C.

If the 187 visa is approved, then it replaces all bridging visas upon grant.

The reason you're getting a BV-C for the 187 application is that you're lodging that application when you do not hold a substantive (non-bridging) visa. But if you hold 2 BV's, the one that is more beneficial to you (A better than C) will remain in effect until it expires.

Hope this helps -

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I last held student visa 1.5 years ago and applied for partner temporary and permanent visa and hold a bridging visa A currently.

regards,

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Thanks Mark,

Very useful information,

What are the chances of being successful in applying for work rights on BVC?

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Hi Wiseman -

As long as you have not received a decision on the partner visa, your BV-A associated with that will remain in effect even if you lodge another application for the 187 visa. The BV-C for the 187 (which you can apply to have work rights for if you wish) will remain dormant "underneath" the BV-A until the partner visa decision. Once the partner visa decision has been made, 28 days later the BV-A will cease and the BV-C (assuming you lodged a 187 application sometime during the BV-A's currency) will automatically activate so you're covered. You can then make an application for work rights for the BV-C.

If the 187 visa is approved, then it replaces all bridging visas upon grant.

The reason you're getting a BV-C for the 187 application is that you're lodging that application when you do not hold a substantive (non-bridging) visa. But if you hold 2 BV's, the one that is more beneficial to you (A better than C) will remain in effect until it expires.

Hope this helps -

Best,

Mark Northam


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