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Countries visited over the past 10 years: doing my head in.


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Old 01-20-2013, 08:35 AM
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Countries visited over the past 10 years: doing my head in.

The question "In which countries have you visited (for any period of less than 12 months) during the last 10 years?" from Form 49SP is doing my head in.

I'm Dutch and it takes about an hour to get out of the country so it happens a lot, not to mention I was 15 ten years ago! I have been able to determine, in hindsight, about 26 trips or so, but am still missing the exact dates of 7 or 8. Some because I was in highschool and I hardly wrote down my homework, let alone dates for school trips, and I have contacted all old classmates who might know and none of them still have the dates written down anywhere. The other trips I have tried to contact border security of those countries for: Ireland told me they don't keep record of EU citizens traveling in and out, and the UK told me to pay and I might get an answer in 40 days.

You have to understand, I love London and on several occasions I just needed a break from home (parents divorced, friend died, etc) and took a €40 flight to London alone without really even writing it down just to get away for a few days. I have no clue whatsoever what the exact dates were, just maybe the months. Hotmail won't let me into my old email account with the flight confirmations or hostel bookings so that's a dead end.

An incomplete Form 47SP can result in the application not being valid but I've tried everything I could and honestly I just don't know some of these dates. Will this be a dealbreaker for DIAC?


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Hi Nelly -

I don't think so. For the trips you only know the months, or only know the years, then include what you do know and I would suggest adding a note on the extension page explaining that for some of the trips, due to the passage of time and lack of specific records, you were not able to determine the specific dates. You can also include info on your efforts to pin down the dates as you did here, perhaps with more detail for DIAC. If they say that you made a good faith effort to comply with the request, and that no more information was available despite substantial effort, I don't believe you will be penalized for that. The key thing to show is that you respect the request for information and did everything you could to provide all the information they requested.

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[QUOTE=Nelly87;77066]The question "In which countries have you visited (for any period of less than 12 months) during the last 10 years?" from Form 49SP is doing my head in.

I'm Dutch and it takes about an hour to get out of the country so it happens a lot, not to mention I was 15 ten years ago! I have been able to determine, in hindsight, about 26 trips or so, but am still missing the exact dates of 7 or 8. Some because I was in highschool and I hardly wrote down my homework, let alone dates for school trips, and I have contacted all old classmates who might know and none of them still have the dates written down anywhere. The other trips I have tried to contact border security of those countries for: Ireland told me they don't keep record of EU citizens traveling in and out, and the UK told me to pay and I might get an answer in 40 days.

I don't think they are going to be overly concerned about what you did as a child, remember the people in the embassy are aware of how easy it was for you to move between the 2 countries. So just answer to the best of your recollection and state on the form there may have been a couple of other times but you can not recall the dates. Though Mark is the expert not me


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I agree with Aussieboy07 - childhood trips are of far less significance than those made as an adult. Notes on the extension page of the form should suffice.

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Thanks so much! The form said to add any additional trips that did not fit onto that section on a separate document, it didn't refer to the extension page at the end, so I have added a separate page with an explanation! I know all my trips from the past 5 years at least for sure, not to mention the times I have been outside Europe I know for sure (like the US and Australia, obviously) so hopefully they can see that there was a difference for me between big, exciting travels and a quick city trip an hour away.


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That form 80 is probably what has done me in. i know someone who did not fill it and the CO did not ask for it and visa got granted without form 80 being filled.

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Hi Gerrywins
I know a lot of people here say to provide it so as to prevent any further delay if they are asked for it. I am of the opinion that it is not a requirement on the checklist though the checklist says that your case officer "may" ask for it so therefore do not provide it. Fill the form in and have it ready to provide if it is asked for but don't send it. I say this as whatever you provide they will be obliged to check which may take additional time also. In saying all that given that you are from Kenya and that appears to be the longest waiting country anyway, you may as well provide it upfront (with your application). So now ar4e you really confused


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Hi Gerrywins
I know a lot of people here say to provide it so as to prevent any further delay if they are asked for it. I am of the opinion that it is not a requirement on the checklist though the checklist says that your case officer "may" ask for it so therefore do not provide it. Fill the form in and have it ready to provide if it is asked for but don't send it. I say this as whatever you provide they will be obliged to check which may take additional time also. In saying all that given that you are from Kenya and that appears to be the longest waiting country anyway, you may as well provide it upfront (with your application). So now ar4e you really confused
I am just really baffled that Kenya is one of the countries with the longest waiting periods, with no reasonable explanation. I just feel terrible.

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Out of curiosity, what implications would a long list of countries have on the processing time of an application? As an example, my partner and I went on a big round the world trip prior to lodging the application which included over 30 countries. We provided exact entry and exit dates for each country and provided a travel itinerary to back it up. Some of the countries we went to were a bit off the beaten track so I can imagine the mention of them might raise eyebrows. Given the travel was for leisure purposes, do you think it would slow down the application?

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One thing i can think of is if they are looking for possible criminal activity (or multiple marriages, so that is now 2 things) in different countries. That potentially would slow it down if they were contacting different authorities. Though this is just me letting my imagination take a wander through the what ifs. Hopefully someone will give you a real answer

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