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Old 03-11-2013, 07:45 AM
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The celebrant is inexperienced and doesn't know his stuff by the sounds of it. My pastor did ours and has married a hundred odd people so had no problem just writing a letter saying that the NOIM had been submitted (which was to him) on x date and that we plan to marry on x date in x location by him.

Your celebrant is wrong making the paperwork be sent to you as your man can sign it for you and it can be submitted like that and then you just sign it when you arrive. This is what we will be doing. Grab a copy of the NOIM yourself and read the rules on the first page if you want clarity.

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Here is the note from the NOIM
If a party to an intended marriage cannot conveniently sign this Notice at the time it is intended to give notice of the intended marriage, the other party may sign the Notice and give it to the proposed authorized celebrant. However, in this case, the party who has not signed the notice must sign it in the presence of that celebrant or another authorized celebrant before the marriage is solemnized.


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Hi,

It depends with the celebrant. The celebrant my fiance got did not mind that I have not signed the NOIM. But I did send a copy of my passport and had my details on the form.

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Here is the note from the NOIM
If a party to an intended marriage cannot conveniently sign this Notice at the time it is intended to give notice of the intended marriage, the other party may sign the Notice and give it to the proposed authorized celebrant. However, in this case, the party who has not signed the notice must sign it in the presence of that celebrant or another authorized celebrant before the marriage is solemnized.
Right, I know that part (that it's not a problem marriage-wise if I don't sign it until I'm actually there) but he thinks DIAC won't accept a certified copy of it without my signature on it. Is that not the case? Did you send in a copy of your NOIM or just the letter?

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Visa Granted: Early July 2014.
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The celebrant is inexperienced and doesn't know his stuff by the sounds of it. My pastor did ours and has married a hundred odd people so had no problem just writing a letter saying that the NOIM had been submitted (which was to him) on x date and that we plan to marry on x date in x location by him.

Your celebrant is wrong making the paperwork be sent to you as your man can sign it for you and it can be submitted like that and then you just sign it when you arrive. This is what we will be doing. Grab a copy of the NOIM yourself and read the rules on the first page if you want clarity.
So should I just ask the celebrant for a letter that says "I met with [Sponsor's Name] on [date], and the NOIM was submitted to me. [Sponsor's Name and Applicant's Name] plan to marry on [date] in a location yet to be determined."

Will something like that work?

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It depends with the celebrant. The celebrant my fiance got did not mind that I have not signed the NOIM. But I did send a copy of my passport and had my details on the form.

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Thanks Jessica - but did you get a letter from your celebrant, or a copy of the NOIM, or both?

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Right, I know that part (that it's not a problem marriage-wise if I don't sign it until I'm actually there) but he thinks DIAC won't accept a certified copy of it without my signature on it. Is that not the case? Did you send in a copy of your NOIM or just the letter?
I just sent the letter as that is what the documentation says you can do, there are a few options but then the CO contacted me and wanted the NOIM as well so I sent that. She took objection to my love not signing it but clearly hasn't read the notes on the document so I pointed out to her that it was not required. She ran it past her supervisor and it was all ok.


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So should I just ask the celebrant for a letter that says "I met with [Sponsor's Name] on [date], and the NOIM was submitted to me. [Sponsor's Name and Applicant's Name] plan to marry on [date] in a location yet to be determined."

Will something like that work?
Yes but not sure if the location but is a problem.


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Hi All,
Let me say first that Australian Immigration offices in different countries can have differing and/or extra requirments, and different CO can have different interpritations of the same rules.

Here the relevent bit striaght of the check list:

"Evidence that you intend to marry your fiancÚ within nine months of being granted the visa (for example a letter from the person who will be officiating at the wedding ceremony)."

When my wife applied in Manila in 2011 we submitted a letter from the celebrant with her letterhead on the document and had no problems with just that.
This is just from personal experiance and as I said at the start rule change over time and from place to place.
goodluck to all,

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Now our agent is saying our celebrant is wrong... I just want to bang my head against the wall at how confusing this process is. Seriously, can't DIAC just say "If the applicant is offshore, lodge the NOIM with the celebrant, get a certified copy of it (does not need to be signed by applicant, just sponsor) and submit that." I mean, for Pete's sake, spell it out if it's complicated. Not to toot my own horn, but I'm a reasonably intelligent person - and if I'm confused and frustrated, I can't imagine how others feel.

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