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Old 03-22-2013, 09:35 AM
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Couples with early marriages take note

So, after a lengthy interview of both my husband and me yesterday with his case officer, I have learnt that, even if you've been married four years when you apply, it is STILL possible for your relationship to be suspicious if your marriage occurred early into your relationship. Even if you've submitted evidence of living together for several years. Even if you have evidence of financial support for several years. Even if you've supplied seven statutory declarations from friends who know both of you. Even if you have evidence of extensive and expensive joint travel. Even if you've been to Australia on a tourist visa to meet your partner's family and complied with all your conditions to come back and pay the fee to apply for a partner visa through all the legal channels.

But if you get married a year after you've met, having been physically together in the same country for several months, then your relationship is still suspicious even four years after the fact. Honestly I would have thought that if anybody married an Australian just for a visa, they'd have got pretty damn tired of waiting after four years!

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So, after a lengthy interview of both my husband and me yesterday with his case officer, I have learnt that, even if you've been married four years when you apply, it is STILL possible for your relationship to be suspicious if your marriage occurred early into your relationship. Even if you've submitted evidence of living together for several years. Even if you have evidence of financial support for several years. Even if you've supplied seven statutory declarations from friends who know both of you. Even if you have evidence of extensive and expensive joint travel. Even if you've been to Australia on a tourist visa to meet your partner's family and complied with all your conditions to come back and pay the fee to apply for a partner visa through all the legal channels.

But if you get married a year after you've met, having been physically together in the same country for several months, then your relationship is still suspicious even four years after the fact. Honestly I would have thought that if anybody married an Australian just for a visa, they'd have got pretty damn tired of waiting after four years!
Interesting. What is your situation? I met my husband in 2006, engaged 6mo later, and married 1 year after we met. He has been in the US since 2007 and we have 2 kids together, married 5+ years!

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Hi bashishot,

I think you should be fine as you're both from countries with similar standards of living. My husband is from a high risk country.

We met and fell in love quickly, decided that we wanted to get married a month after meeting, then I had to go back to Australia for a long time for my unfinished studies, we developed our relationship further by long distance, I came back for several months and we got married, a year after we'd met. After a little more going back and forth for my studies, I moved permanently to his country and we've been living together there for quite a while. We went to Australia together a year ago so he could meet my family and friends, finally, and recently celebrated our fourth wedding anniversary.


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They actually told you that they felt your case was "suspicious?" Was that still the case after the interview? Man, it is wrecking me to see DIAC give all these very loving couples such a hard time. If you guys who have been married four years are suspicious, if melandabdul can be refused a PMV, what hope is there for the rest of us? So frustrating.

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At the conclusion of my husband's interview, which was more than two hours long, the case officer said, "Well, I have to say that it looks to me as though you only entered into this partnership to get the visa. You're not able to speak English to her and you got married really quickly."

Other people I've spoken to think that it was just a provocatory statement to see how he would react, and that they're trained to do all sorts of strategic things like that.

The CO asked him for my phone number to clarify some things from me, and then called me and essentially let me talk for an hour and a half about our relationship I found the CO to be quite responsive to what I was saying, so I have hope that not all is lost. I was confident that I was able to convince the CO of our genuineness because I was very open about every aspect of our relationship and gave responses at length and in detail to all the questions. Throughout it the CO was agreeing with things I was saying and it ended up much more like a friendly chat than an interrogation.

So I have hope, but then again there have been all the stories in the past on this forum of case officers recording things incorrectly and refusing visas based on their own skewed interpretation of the evidence/interview.

What do you think?


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At the conclusion of my husband's interview, which was more than two hours long, the case officer said, "Well, I have to say that it looks to me as though you only entered into this partnership to get the visa. You're not able to speak English to her and you got married really quickly."

Other people I've spoken to think that it was just a provocatory statement to see how he would react, and that they're trained to do all sorts of strategic things like that.

The CO asked him for my phone number to clarify some things from me, and then called me and essentially let me talk for an hour and a half about our relationship I found the CO to be quite responsive to what I was saying, so I have hope that not all is lost. I was confident that I was able to convince the CO of our genuineness because I was very open about every aspect of our relationship and gave responses at length and in detail to all the questions. Throughout it the CO was agreeing with things I was saying and it ended up much more like a friendly chat than an interrogation.

So I have hope, but then again there have been all the stories in the past on this forum of case officers recording things incorrectly and refusing visas based on their own skewed interpretation of the evidence/interview.

What do you think?
What country is he from?

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He is from Jordan.


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At the conclusion of my husband's interview, which was more than two hours long, the case officer said, "Well, I have to say that it looks to me as though you only entered into this partnership to get the visa. You're not able to speak English to her and you got married really quickly."

Other people I've spoken to think that it was just a provocatory statement to see how he would react, and that they're trained to do all sorts of strategic things like that.

The CO asked him for my phone number to clarify some things from me, and then called me and essentially let me talk for an hour and a half about our relationship I found the CO to be quite responsive to what I was saying, so I have hope that not all is lost. I was confident that I was able to convince the CO of our genuineness because I was very open about every aspect of our relationship and gave responses at length and in detail to all the questions. Throughout it the CO was agreeing with things I was saying and it ended up much more like a friendly chat than an interrogation.

So I have hope, but then again there have been all the stories in the past on this forum of case officers recording things incorrectly and refusing visas based on their own skewed interpretation of the evidence/interview.

What do you think?
Oh, I so hope you're right - that once he listened to you he understood! If he really felt that way I'd be surprised that he'd say as much - so maybe it really was a test. I hope so!

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Hi just want to share my experience... How quick our relationship and our visa was...

I am a Filipina working in Vietnam and I met my hubby (Aussie) in dating site at September 2007 and then we met and get married in Philippines at December 2007. We lodged our papers in April2008 and was granted in July 2008. That was how lucky we are for the quick visa approval and as the matter of fact our relationship is just only 3 months Good luck to those still waiting.


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Just want to be specific that we lodged our spouse visa 309 and two years after granted my permanent resident and tomorrow I will be attending my citizenship ceremony


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