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Partner Visa Offshore (309) from Indonesia

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I am an australian citizen and I am planning to marry my girlfriend from Indonesia in 1 year or 2 years in the future.
She's never been here, so we meet only once or twice a year when i visit Indonesia.
We have been in relationship for more than 3 years (as in girlfriend boyfriend), from 28 December 2009.
She is going to apply for Partner Visa in Indonesia after we have married.

Summary :
1. We have been in relationship for more than 3 years,but it is not de-facto, because I don't live with her together when I visit Indonesia (Our family won't allow that ), and I understand that the immigration office does not consider dating (not living together) as de-facto relationship.

2. We are going to get marry in 1 year or 2 years in the future,and she is going to apply for the Partner Visa as soon as possible after that,while she is still in Indonesia (she's never been to Australia before)

3. We practically don't have the financial aspects of evidence of relationship.
I have one or two lines in my bank statement that I sent her money for her traveling in Europe in 2011,but it's only for train tickets and not that much.
- We don't own any major assets.
- We will have the same legal commitments which is our marriage.
- We don't have joint bank accounts.
We can work it out by applying for joint bank accounts in Indonesia but we won't have any money in it,or perhaps a couple hundreds dollar max.
- We don't have any sharing house hold bills

4. We won't have household yet when she is going to apply because :
- she's not here yet
- i am going to go back to australia after we are getting married to finish my study and I can't live in Indonesia for more than one month because my study in Australia.

5. We have a lot of social context of relationship evidences.
-We had traveled together to different cities in Indonesia
-Our homes In Indonesia are really close and we are basically neighbor over there
-We went to the same high school Indonesia (She's 2 years younger than me)

6. She works professionally as an editor and she writes some novels in Indonesia.

7. I am undergraduate university student and in Austudy, but I believe it does not matter.

Basically,what she's going to have when she's applying for Partner Visa are :
1. Legal proof that we have married in Indonesia
2. A lot of social context of relationship evidences.

What do you think of her chance to get the partner visa offshore from Indonesia?

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Since you are not married yet, you should really look into the Prospective Marriage Visa PMV 300. You don't need as much evidence. You could still marry in Indonesia once it has been granted but only after your partner has been to Australia to activate the visa then return to Indonesia and marry. Then you could both go to Australia still on the PMV but then married and apply onshore for the 820 partner visa.

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Since you are not married yet, you should really look into the Prospective Marriage Visa PMV 300. You don't need as much evidence. You could still marry in Indonesia once it has been granted but only after your partner has been to Australia to activate the visa then return to Indonesia and marry. Then you could both go to Australia still on the PMV but then married and apply onshore for the 820 partner visa.

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thanks for you reply
unfortunately, for PMV visa we need to live together at least for 12 months
my study in australia wont allow that,her job in Indonesia won't allow that and the most important thing is that our family and our background won't allow that
(I am australian with Indonesian background)

Our plan is to get married in Indonesia and then she will apply for Partner Visa (Spouse visa 309) in Indonesia (offshore)as soon as possible,while I will go back to Australia to continue my study

What do you guys think about our chance?


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thanks for you reply
unfortunately, for PMV visa we need to live together at least for 12 months
my study in australia wont allow that,her job in Indonesia won't allow that and the most important thing is that our family and our background won't allow that
(I am australian with Indonesian background)

Our plan is to get married in Indonesia and then she will apply for Partner Visa (Spouse visa 309) in Indonesia (offshore)as soon as possible,while I will go back to Australia to continue my study

What do you guys think about our chance?
NO, you don't have to have lived together at all for the PMV 300! The only requirement is that you have met in person and plan to have a life together and can prove that.

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Prospective Marriage Visa (Subclass 300)

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Prospective Marriage Visa (Subclass 300)

Relationship

You must have met (as adults) your intended spouse in person and know him or her personally. This must be the case even if:

it is an arranged marriage
you and your sponsor met as children and the marriage was arranged before you turned 18 years of age
you met on the internet (exchanging photographs is not evidence of having met in person).



You must have met in person and the evidence required is substantially less than for a partner visa.

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If she works as an editor/writer, those occupations are on the SOL schedule 2 list. Have you looked into getting her her own visa based on those skills?

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Relationship

You must have met (as adults) your intended spouse in person and know him or her personally. This must be the case even if:

it is an arranged marriage
you and your sponsor met as children and the marriage was arranged before you turned 18 years of age
you met on the internet (exchanging photographs is not evidence of having met in person).



You must have met in person and the evidence required is substantially less than for a partner visa.

Kttykat

Thank you. Yeah, I thought the 12 months requirement is also for the people who apply offshore.

Anyway, still we can't follow that route because that means she will be in Australia before we have married.
We want her to move here after we have already married.

1. From my understanding from reading your post,is it harder to get Partner Visa than Prospective Marriage Visa?

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If she works as an editor/writer, those occupations are on the SOL schedule 2 list. Have you looked into getting her her own visa based on those skills?
yes we do,but we only want to apply for her visa after we have married in Indonesia
after we have married,the best visa she can apply i think is the partner visa


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From my understanding the partner visa is 'harder' than PMV in the sense that you must provide heaps of specific evidence in the 4 categories... Financial, cohabitation, social, and nature of relationship. From your post, it sounds like you have no cohabitation evidence. Will you be living together once you are married and before you apply?

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