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Old 04-07-2013, 06:45 AM
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Hi Dgs -

Countries regularly share movement records with each other - it's commonplace (especially since 9/11) and a typical part of the immigration and security checks done when a person applies for a permanent visa. This kind of info does not require an ASIO check - it's considered routine immigration info shared between countries - all DIAC needs is a passport number to run this type of check.

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This! And I do believe the UK is a country Australian immigration would have easy and regular information exchange with.

Also EU (European Union) citizens travelling between EU countries DO NOT always leave a trail on paper, but if you are not from the EU you most definitely ended up on a record.

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This! And I do believe the UK is a country Australian immigration would have easy and regular information exchange with.

Also EU (European Union) citizens travelling between EU countries DO NOT always leave a trail on paper, but if you are not from the EU you most definitely ended up on a record.
I am a US citizen and I included every country I went to. I actually went back and got my old passport (maiden name one) and picked all the dates and Google searched to make sure the dates were accurate! Many countries in the EU did not stamp both in and out but I had an idea of when I was there. I didn't have an electronic passport at the time either but I'm sure my information would still come up if it was searched.

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One of my brothers is an overstaying in Australia. Meanwhile, I have applied for permanent residency and the CO has asked me for completed Form 80. Should I include information about him in Form 80? I am clueless about his address in Australia. What should I mention in the form? Please respond with advice in this regard.


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Agreed with Nelly - the issue will be the question of whether you have ever had a visa cancelled or refused. If your visa was cancelled due to the overstay, then you need to admit that. There's another question about whether you ever left a country in order to avoid removal or deportation - that's the question where this would likely come up.

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Hi Mark,
One of my brothers is an overstaying in Australia. Meanwhile, I have applied for permanent residency and the CO has asked me for completed Form 80. Should I include information about him in Form 80? I am clueless about his address in Australia. What should I mention in the form? Please respond with advice in this regard.


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Hi Mark,
One of my brothers is an overstaying in Australia. Meanwhile, I have applied for permanent residency and the CO has asked me for completed Form 80. Should I include information about him in Form 80? I am clueless about his address in Australia. What should I mention in the form? Please respond with advice in this regard.
You absolutely need to include everything. If you omit information, they can see it as trying to hide something from them and that could be very serious for you. You always want to be 100% open and honest with them.

There are blank spaces on the last page of the form where you can include additional information on any question you want. Whichever question is asking for your brother's address, I would just make sure on the last page you write the question number for that, and then the fact that you know your brother resides in Australia but that you do not know his address. If you don't know his address because you are not close and have not been in contact with him for quite some time, it would probably be good to say that, but definitely do NOT say that if it is not true. DIAC and ASIO have ways of searching things out.

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You absolutely need to include everything. If you omit information, they can see it as trying to hide something from them and that could be very serious for you. You always want to be 100% open and honest with them.

There are blank spaces on the last page of the form where you can include additional information on any question you want. Whichever question is asking for your brother's address, I would just make sure on the last page you write the question number for that, and then the fact that you know your brother resides in Australia but that you do not know his address. If you don't know his address because you are not close and have not been in contact with him for quite some time, it would probably be good to say that, but definitely do NOT say that if it is not true. DIAC and ASIO have ways of searching things out.
I second that and want to add, if your brother is overstaying it is very unlikely he has a future in Australia. Eventually they will find out, find him and he will not sit pretty in terms of entering Australia again - it is already game over for him, not for you though. It is his decision, sadly, and it should not affect your decision to do things the honest way. They can't punish you for being honest about someone else's bad decision for as far as I know. I don't think it would matter if your sibling wouldn't get through a health check, so it would be wrong if their overstaying would reflect on you.

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