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Old 04-12-2013, 08:48 PM
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Further evidence required by CO - Is this normal? Help put mind at rest please

Please somebody either put the frighteners up me even more, or help put my mind at rest.

My 190 sponsored visa application has recently been allocated to a case officer after receiving a positive skills assessment and state sponsorship approval. However, they have now requested further evidence for the relationship between my wife and I and also for my employment history.

This all seems a little strange considering I have a total of about 75 points, my wife and I are married, I have a successful skills assessment (where presumably they are happy with my experience and quals) and state sponsorship. I only hope they are not making it difficult for us, in an attempt to trip us up and make the decision to reject us easier. My migration agent has said that they have not been asked for this additional info often in the past and usually our marriage certificate and all of the other successful stages we have been through have been enough.

I hope I am only being paranoid, as they have still requested that we carry out our health and character checks within a 28 day period.

Please can somebody tell me if they have experienced the same thing, or they think this is unusual? I think I might just cry if we get this far and get rejected...... ;-)

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Please somebody either put the frighteners up me even more, or help put my mind at rest.

My 190 sponsored visa application has recently been allocated to a case officer after receiving a positive skills assessment and state sponsorship approval. However, they have now requested further evidence for the relationship between my wife and I and also for my employment history.

This all seems a little strange considering I have a total of about 75 points, my wife and I are married, How long have you been married? How long have you been together? yours is skilled migration but I know for partner visas like ours we had to provide a lot of evidence, we submitted over 7 pounds of forms and supporting documentation in our application, it may be that the case officer just needs some reassurance as to the genuineness of your relationship, just being married isn't sufficient but will help. I have a successful skills assessment (where presumably they are happy with my experience and quals) and state sponsorship. I only hope they are not making it difficult for us, in an attempt to trip us up and make the decision to reject us easier. My migration agent has said that they have not been asked for this additional info often in the past and usually our marriage certificate You should have a look at partner migration threads to see what they look for to "prove" your relationship. and all of the other successful stages we have been through have been enough.

I hope I am only being paranoid, as they have still requested that we carry out our health and character checks within a 28 day period. Make sure you get the information to them within the time limit!

Please can somebody tell me if they have experienced the same thing, or they think this is unusual? I think I might just cry if we get this far and get rejected...... ;-)

Thank you in advance.
Not knowing more about your specific case it is hard to know what motivated immigration to be suspicious but if you are genuine and give them what they ask for there is no need to be overly worried.

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paranoia is perfectly normal when dealing with the embassy. Like Kitty Kat i too am applying for a partner visa and have to marriage is genuine. When asked to provide evidence it is better to give too much than not enough. In regards to your marriage provide copies of joint bank statements, rent lease in both name, electricity bills etc if in both names, statements from neighbours, friends and colleagues stating that you have a genuine loving marriage. Joint holidays eg: copies of passports which demonstrated that you travelled together, photos of wedding, wedding cards.
Don't know about the employment history, maybe they are just checking your employment credentials. Though this should be a fairly thing to provide just get a letter of employment from your previous boss and if you can find any old payslips and your tax records. Hope this helps but remeber i applied for a different visa good luck

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Evidence of your partner relationship is common for PR visas - some case officers are happy with just a marriage certificate, others want more evidence. Generally (but not always) they are looking for more than just a marriage certificate, but less than a full-blown partner visa application. As KK said, probably best to look through the Partner Visa Guide (Booklet 1) from DIAC and put together a representative package of information about your relationship. And as she said, you usually can't go wrong by providing too much data when this type of request is made.

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Please somebody either put the frighteners up me even more, or help put my mind at rest.

My 190 sponsored visa application has recently been allocated to a case officer after receiving a positive skills assessment and state sponsorship approval. However, they have now requested further evidence for the relationship between my wife and I and also for my employment history.

This all seems a little strange considering I have a total of about 75 points, my wife and I are married, I have a successful skills assessment (where presumably they are happy with my experience and quals) and state sponsorship. I only hope they are not making it difficult for us, in an attempt to trip us up and make the decision to reject us easier. My migration agent has said that they have not been asked for this additional info often in the past and usually our marriage certificate and all of the other successful stages we have been through have been enough.

I hope I am only being paranoid, as they have still requested that we carry out our health and character checks within a 28 day period.

Please can somebody tell me if they have experienced the same thing, or they think this is unusual? I think I might just cry if we get this far and get rejected...... ;-)

Thank you in advance.
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dont be worried.it is all in normal formalities.if your relationship has genuine,there wont be a rejection.one of my mate was met same situation as well as get success.please provide the documents which he requested.....i can see you soon in this forum with happy threads which deals visa granting.....best of luck...


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Not to be negative, and I wish the statement "if your relationship is genuine, you won't be rejected" was true, but unfortunately it is not from my experience, having seen more than a few rejections of genuine relationships. Regular readers of this forum will recall such cases, even one very recently that was heartbreaking.

Bottom line: If there is any question about the relationship, it's time to provide maximum detailed evidence to remove any and all doubts from the case officer's mind. Don't assume that just because your relationship is genuine that the case officer will somehow "know" this - it is ALL based on the evidence - that's the key to winning migration cases in my opinion. Don't get upset, don't take it personally, just put together the evidence and send in detail, along with a nice cover letter.

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Evidence of your partner relationship is common for PR visas - some case officers are happy with just a marriage certificate, others want more evidence. Generally (but not always) they are looking for more than just a marriage certificate, but less than a full-blown partner visa application. As KK said, probably best to look through the Partner Visa Guide (Booklet 1) from DIAC and put together a representative package of information about your relationship. And as she said, you usually can't go wrong by providing too much data when this type of request is made.

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Thank you very much for taking the time to reply Mark. It was most realistic and informative.
It would appear that there is a clear difference between doing this as part of a PR visa, rather than as part of a partner visa, but I guess its always best to provide more rather than less. One difficulty we have is that I bought the flat we live in originally and therefore all bills etc are in my name. I have collated evidence from bank statements that show a regular amount entering my bank account from my wife (going back years), to help with the payment of bills/mortgage etc... I have also got together letters from the DVLA and other correspondence sent to her at this address, particularly within the 12 months prior to our visa application. I have included some scanned photos, copy of our wedding invites with dates for rsvp (addressed to us both at this address) and also a covering letter/stat declaration which explains our relationship further (how we met and developed etc...). I am waiting on a letter from the council explaining that we have lived together for the past 3 years (as I no longer have old council tax bills unfortunately), but I am unsure whether they are going to get that to me in time and therefore hope that all of the above will be enough. I hope so!

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paranoia is perfectly normal when dealing with the embassy. Like Kitty Kat i too am applying for a partner visa and have to marriage is genuine. When asked to provide evidence it is better to give too much than not enough. In regards to your marriage provide copies of joint bank statements, rent lease in both name, electricity bills etc if in both names, statements from neighbours, friends and colleagues stating that you have a genuine loving marriage. Joint holidays eg: copies of passports which demonstrated that you travelled together, photos of wedding, wedding cards.
Don't know about the employment history, maybe they are just checking your employment credentials. Though this should be a fairly thing to provide just get a letter of employment from your previous boss and if you can find any old payslips and your tax records. Hope this helps but remeber i applied for a different visa good luck
Thank you for taking the time to reply Aussieboy.

As another reply suggested, I think there is a clear distinction between providing evidence of a relationship as part of a PR visa, rather than for a partner visa, but always worthwhile to go for more evidence than less!

The employment one is a little more tricky, as one period of employment was 6-9 years ago and I no longer have copies of my P60s/contract etc.... (daft I know). I have managed to get some bank entries, which prove payment over of salary over the last six months of my time with them. However, bank records do not go back any further than 6/7 years, so I hope that time period is enough. I have also now scanned in a copy of my contract from my most recent employer. Work statements from both roles have already been submitted to the CO. I am waiting on a statement of earnings from my previous employer, which hopefully will serve the purpose in the absence of P60s from those years.

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Hey Mark is the expert and we are all just greatfull that he responds. Personally if i get in the cow doo with my visa application, i will be engaging Mark to dig me out.

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Thanks for the kind words, Aussieboy07 - however your knowledge of migration is excellent and I doubt you will have any problems. But in the unlikely event you do, I'm ready with shovel in hand!

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