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Old 04-19-2013, 11:19 AM
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Does anyone here have experience with the partner visa when you were not able to live together at all? I went to Australia in Sep2009 for one year to study English and Events Management. My partner and I met after two months, so we had 10 months together. He was living at a friends house and I was staying with a host family; so we never officially lived together.

I had to go back home because I was going to study tourism in Switzerland (in Sep2010). My partner was awaiting a permanent position at work and couldn't leave his job to come with me. We are doing long distance relationship ever since and tried to meet up every five months. Iíll finish my study in July so it comes to applying for a visa soon. We are planning to apply for the de-facto partner Visa (offshore) but I am so worried because we never lived together, so we canít provide a lot of the required proof. We registered our relationship in February2012. Is this really enough to waive the 12-months requirement? I sort of canít believe that it is that Ďeasyí to waive it. Of course we have other proof that we have always been in contact and visited each otherÖ

There really is no other visa option for me. Swiss unfortunately canít get a working holiday visa and I canít afford a whole year as a tourist. We donít want to rush things and get married within nine months, so thatís why I prefer the de-facto visa. The prospective marriage visa would be the backup plan Do you reckon immigration considers the fact that there was just no way for us to live together prior the application or is this a hopeless case? Looking forward to hearing your opinion and stories...


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Old 04-19-2013, 11:48 AM
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Does anyone here have experience with the partner visa when you were not able to live together at all? I went to Australia in Sep2009 for one year to study English and Events Management. My partner and I met after two months, so we had 10 months together. He was living at a friends house and I was staying with a host family; so we never officially lived together.

I had to go back home because I was going to study tourism in Switzerland (in Sep2010). My partner was awaiting a permanent position at work and couldn't leave his job to come with me. We are doing long distance relationship ever since and tried to meet up every five months. Iíll finish my study in July so it comes to applying for a visa soon. We are planning to apply for the de-facto partner Visa (offshore) but I am so worried because we never lived together, so we canít provide a lot of the required proof. We registered our relationship in February2012. Is this really enough to waive the 12-months requirement? I sort of canít believe that it is that Ďeasyí to waive it. Of course we have other proof that we have always been in contact and visited each otherÖ

There really is no other visa option for me. Swiss unfortunately canít get a working holiday visa and I canít afford a whole year as a tourist. We donít want to rush things and get married within nine months, so thatís why I prefer the de-facto visa. The prospective marriage visa would be the backup plan Do you reckon immigration considers the fact that there was just no way for us to live together prior the application or is this a hopeless case? Looking forward to hearing your opinion and stories...
The registration of the relationship does waive the 12 months living together however immigration will want a very good reason why you haven't lived together and you will need to prove to them that the relationship is genuine. You will need lots of statutory declarations etc.

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Yes I agree with Kittykat. While your registration saves you from being married and waives the live-in requirement, you'll need to make sure you have tons and tons of evidence. I had a long distance relationship with my partner for 4.5 years, and the maximum that I ever stayed with him under the same roof was a mere 3 months lol.

I had a slightly harder job collecting evidence than most couples who have the good fortune of having shared/joint bills. I had up for that by having other types of documents (letters, photos, invitation to weddings, post office receipts, online purchase receipts that show my purchases to my partner, a joint bank account, money transfers).

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Our situations are very similar, and I have just had my de facto application refused as we did not live together. Our CO said our only option now is too switch over to prospective marriage visa...
it's risky to apply for de facto if you havent lived together. as thats the #1 thing they look for.


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I married my wife in the USA and applied for the visa afterwards.

We never lived together but took many trips to stay with each other in the years before our marraige. We included all travel records as well as samples of the activities we did together.

We had very detailed Phone, Skype, Text, and Facebook records(detailing the amt of contact and duration of contact, we didnt include the content of it) and select social media crops to show the openess of our relationship in regards to family and friends.

Lots of stat decs are needed from family and friends. Pictures with each others families are a must as well.

Demonstrate that you do couple related activities together. Even if they seem a little touristy, make sure you are spending alot of time doing cultural activities with each other, it goes to show an understanding of where each other are from, and the differences and similarities between you teo.

Communication records with each others family showing the nature of your relationship is also a very big help. My contact with my mother-in-law showing and discussing the everyday nature of the relationship was a big source of proof for us. My wifes ongoing contact with my sisters, nieces and nephew was also a big help. We showed at least weekly contact with multiple members of each others family, and how even though apart we where already members of each others family.

Cards, christmas/ birthday gifts, flowers sent etc also help to show the relationship.

Both our stat decs we did went into high detail of our future plans together once i arrived in aus. We detailed how the household, finance and parenting would be arranged, as well as who would be working etc.

In our case, we have a blended family. My wife has a daughter from a previous marraige. We detailed our plan for adjusting her daughter to the new marraige, talked about meeting my wifes ex to talk about matters regarding my stepdaughter and laying out a groundwork for my move there.

There never is a smoking gun piece of evidence to show your relationship is genuine, but all your pieces will paint a picture together!!


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Thanks for your inputs. I have sent off the application at the end of July (offshore). This week I got asked to do the medical checks which I am going to do next week. Just about two days later I got Mail from Immi back with all our evidence that we have been in contact and trips to see eachother during these three years apart. Why do they send it back? Is it because we registered our relationship and they dont really care about other stuff? Or is it because its sort of useless what I sent?!. Which i dont really believe... I am very confused since that part is what I have been worried about the most and now they send it back. Does anyone have experience with that?? Thank you all.

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they will have taken photocopies of everything. they send it back after they have done this. asking to do ur medicals is a good sign

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I know you said you don't want to get married within the 9 months, but actually the 9 months is from the visa grant date and your visa will take a good 9 months to be approved - so actually if you were to apply today you would be looking at about 18 months before you "had" to get married. Just thought I would mention it if getting married is something you wanted to do anyway.

You could always apply for the prospective marriage visa and then spend a 3-6 months in Australia as a tourist while you await your approval?

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Thanks for your inputs. I have sent off the application at the end of July (offshore). This week I got asked to do the medical checks which I am going to do next week. Just about two days later I got Mail from Immi back with all our evidence that we have been in contact and trips to see eachother during these three years apart. Why do they send it back? Is it because we registered our relationship and they dont really care about other stuff? Or is it because its sort of useless what I sent?!. Which i dont really believe... I am very confused since that part is what I have been worried about the most and now they send it back. Does anyone have experience with that?? Thank you all.
Hello Roxy,

I experienced the same thing, i lodge my prospective marriage visa application last june 10 offshore and aug 9 i received a text message that i my visa application had bern processed and ready for pick up at VIA i was very surprised that when i went to VIA the embassy returned to me all my skype an yahoo conversation with my fiancť, but other proof of relationship like wu reciept, pictures, cards, they dont send it back yet.

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I know you said you don't want to get married within the 9 months, but actually the 9 months is from the visa grant date and your visa will take a good 9 months to be approved - so actually if you were to apply today you would be looking at about 18 months before you "had" to get married. Just thought I would mention it if getting married is something you wanted to do anyway.

You could always apply for the prospective marriage visa and then spend a 3-6 months in Australia as a tourist while you await your approval?
Thanks for that... I thought it would be that way. But I would just like to settle in first, find a job and so on. Marriage to me is very important and I don't want it to be because of a Visa. Maybe if I get my partner visa refused we would have to look at that.... I have already put in for the partner visa. So hopfully I will get positive feedback.

Ok, looks like thats nothing unusual. I am glad than. Yay, no bad news is good news

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