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Old 04-23-2013, 01:56 AM
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Hi there,

I have been awarded with a Bachelors of Degree in Electronic Engineering from university of South Australia this year (2013). The mode of education was distance based and I have only visited the university in Australia once for workshop and projects. I have a Diploma in the same trade and was working from 2008 till present. Currently I am the technical sales manager of a marine company. I'm not sure whether I should apply for 189 or 190 and who should I sent my profile for assessment. Is it Engineers Australia or Vetassess? I'm not sure. Also some says that my experience before graduation will not be considered for any points. Some says I will get assessed by the EA for having an Australian qualification and getting a good score in IELTS will open my way to 189. Any expert advice to enlighten me is highly appreciated.

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Hi there,

I have been awarded with a Bachelors of Degree in Electronic Engineering from university of South Australia this year (2013). The mode of education was distance based and I have only visited the university in Australia once for workshop and projects. I have a Diploma in the same trade and was working from 2008 till present. Currently I am the technical sales manager of a marine company. I'm not sure whether I should apply for 189 or 190 and who should I sent my profile for assessment. Is it Engineers Australia or Vetassess? I'm not sure. Also some says that my experience before graduation will not be considered for any points. Some says I will get assessed by the EA for having an Australian qualification and getting a good score in IELTS will open my way to 189. Any expert advice to enlighten me is highly appreciated.

Thanks & Regards
Claire
Hi Claire,

I am not the expert you are looking for, but I will try to relate this to my case and provide the details I know. Regarding the question of 189/190, you will need to first find an occupation on SOL that closely matches your expertise. The occupations are divided into Schedule 1 (189, where both independent migration and state sponsorship are possible) and Schedule 2 (190, where only state sponsorship is possible). My occupation is Network Analyst which is in Schedule 2, so the only option I had was to choose the State sponsorship. A word of caution, if you choose state sponsorship you will need to work in that state for 2 years, assuming you are able to find a suitable job. In my case as this is a technical occupation, I had to send my application to Australian Computer Society (ACS) for assessment. Once you finalize your occupation, it will be easy to figure out whom to send your skill assessment application to.

Here is the URL where you can find the Skill Occupation List:

Australia Immigration | Australia Visas | Australian Consolidated Sponsored Occupation List

Regarding the points, to the best of my knowledge, you will either get points for your Diploma + job experience (which is 20), or for your latest Australian qualification (15). In some cases, there are chances of getting points for both your latest Australian qualification (15) and experience (10). I believe things should be easier in your case due to the fact that you have academic qualifications from Australian university.

If your occupation is in Schedule 1, it is better to go for 189 if you have 60 points or more. You would be required to choose state sponsorship mainly if you have 55 points, as state sponsorship gives you 5 points. Depending on your country of origin, you wouldn't need IELTS in all cases. If you are a US/UK/Canada national (and some other countries), IELTS isn't mandatory, but this won't add any points too. If you plan to add points to your application through IELTS, you will need to write it.

Please go to this URL to see how many points you score.

Australia Skilled Immigration Points Calculator

There are many other URLs where you can calculate your points.

Let us know if you need any other clarifications.

Good luck!!!

-Satya


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Hi Satya,

Thank you for a very informative reply. Currently my occupation is under the SOL as technical or industrial sales representative which has to be assessed by Vetassess. Issue is this occupation is under skill level 1 and the bottom line is to have atleast an year of post qualification experience(degree level), which I donot have in this case.
I heard that Engineers Australia will assess a candidate who have an Australian qualification without the need of having any post qualification experience. I'm assuming that if I send my profile to EA with Australian Qualification will open the gate to Subclass 189 application.
Also is it advisable to lodge the application through an agent? If yes can anybody out there could recommend me an agent who could probably handle my case ?

Thanks
Claire


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Hi Satya,

Thank you for a very informative reply. Currently my occupation is under the SOL as technical or industrial sales representative which has to be assessed by Vetassess. Issue is this occupation is under skill level 1 and the bottom line is to have atleast an year of post qualification experience(degree level), which I donot have in this case.
I heard that Engineers Australia will assess a candidate who have an Australian qualification without the need of having any post qualification experience. I'm assuming that if I send my profile to EA with Australian Qualification will open the gate to Subclass 189 application.
Also is it advisable to lodge the application through an agent? If yes can anybody out there could recommend me an agent who could probably handle my case ?

Thanks
Claire
Hello Claire,

I believe this is the occupation you are referring to (Sales Representative (Industrial Products) - 225411). From the requirements for this occupation, I don't find that 1 year of experience post graduation is mandatory. 5 years of related work experience can substitute for academic qualification and I see you must be having around 5 years of experience from your initial post. So, it might be an area you can explore further to see how it can work out for you.

In addition, I have gone through the Institution of Engineers Australia official website and I don't see a mention of them doing the assessment for candidates with Australian qualification. They do assessment in various other cases, which I believe is not what you are looking for. Please go through their website (https://www.engineersaustralia.org.a...lls-assessment) to understand their requirements and see if you find anything related to what you heard about.

I would like to again reiterate that I am not a migration agent, and I am replying to you on the basis of what I know

Regarding the agents, I work in Singapore and I chose to go for an Indian consultancy to make sure I don't spend too much time figuring out things. If you prefer to go for immigration agents, I would recommend you approaching agents who are MARA certified (i.e. registered agents) as they can give you the correct advice for your case. I just searched in Google and there are many registered agents in Singapore. Please also go through this link from expat form where people have spoken about registered agents in Singapore (Good australian migration agent in singapore?)

All the best!!

Let us know if you need any other details.

Regards
Satya


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Old 04-24-2013, 01:18 AM
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Hi Satya

Thank you for your kind advise. Have you used an agent from Singapore? Do you mind giving me their name and contact?

Cheers,
Claire


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Thank you for your kind advise. Have you used an agent from Singapore? Do you mind giving me their name and contact?

Cheers,
Claire
Hi Claire,

I took services of an Indian agent who charged me ~1400 SGD. They aren't MARA registered.

I am not aware of any Singapore agents. My previous reply has discussion on good agents in Singapore. You might want to take a look into that.

Thanks!


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Old 04-24-2013, 03:33 AM
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Hi Satya,

I have visited few registered agent in Singapore and they are too expensive. Their fee range any where from AUD 5000 - 7000 and different agents gives me different advise. I have got a reply from Engineers Australia confirming that they could assess me based on my qualification but will not consider work experience since I have just graduated this year.


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Hi Claire,

I understand those charges are expensive. If you are still looking for assistance from migration agents, I would recommend you to consider registered agents of low cost countries like Philippines and India (it is important to do our home work even if we choose this option). I work in Singapore and haven't had any issues working with an agent in India. Even if the agent is local, the communication is always through phone or email, so the agent's location should not matter so much.

There are many people who fill the visa application themselves. That is another option for you and you can use this website to seek assistance when in doubt, which many people do.

Good luck!!!

Please update this thread when you move forward so people with you scenario might benefit in future.

Cheers,
Satya


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Hi Satya,

Sure! I will share the updates. Thanks for the reply.

When did you applied for the visa? Have you received the visa yet?

Cheers,
Claire


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I started my skill assessment process last November. I got positive confirmation in January. I then applied for state sponsorship and it got approved in first week if March.

I applied for my Visa during the last week of March. The case officer has been assigned and is assessing my application. Hopefully it gets approved by end of next month.

Fingers crossed


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