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Old 04-27-2013, 07:47 PM
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For those of you who still believe you'll get approved in days...

Too many forum users have unrealistic expectations about the waiting times for partner visas. Yes, a tiny fraction of a percent of applicants get approved in days or weeks, but those cases are included in the AVERAGE processing time quoted below. Please also note that DIAC is no longer giving priority processing to decision-ready applications. I have copied this information from Update: Onshore Partner / Spouse Visa Processing Time – November 2012 | My Access Australia
Please note the date is November 2012, recently a forum user reported that she was quoted an 18 month waiting period. Before you ask, she is from a low risk country.

"Update: Onshore Partner / Spouse Visa Processing Time – November 2012

DIAC sent around the below update on 15 November 2012 in relation to current processing times for onshore partner /spouse visa applications. Applicants who are waiting for a decision on their application probably already know this: the news is that currently processing times are very lengthy. DIAC’s update states that ‘the current average processing time for subclass 820 applications is around 13 months from lodgement’ and before you ask, I don’t know how long DIAC is going to take to process your application.

Summary of DIAC’s update

Average processing times of 13 months from the date of lodgement for Subclass 820 visa applications
Actual processing times vary significantly
DIAC wants you to lodge complete and decision ready-applications. But DIAC ‘can no longer guarantee that all “assessment ready” applications will be processed more quickly’
DIAC will check your application after lodgement to determine whether it is complete and decision-ready
If your application hasn’t been in the queue for at least 13 months, DIAC won’t provide you with an update. If you’ve been waiting for more than 13 months, then you can following up by emailing the relevant processing time
DIAC’s update

Dear Migration Agents

I have received the following update from DIAC today from the Director of Partner Migration:

‘The onshore partner visa program is experiencing strong demand, and as a result, the current average processing time for subclass 820 applications is around 13 months from lodgement. This is an average processing time and the actual processing time for each application may vary significantly.

To ensure that applications are processed as quickly as possible we request that applications are only lodged when they are complete, including health and character checks and completing Form 80.

Generally, applications are considered in date order but some applications will take longer to finalise than others. Applications which will be prioritised include those which have been remitted following successful review or Ministerial Intervention, and applications which have special circumstances of a compelling and compassionate nature.

Applications which may be decided more quickly include those involving family violence, and those which are “assessment ready” at lodgement.

Following a successful campaign to encourage “assessment ready” cases, we now have a considerable number on hand and can no longer guarantee that all “assessment ready” applications will be processed more quickly. The time to decide assessment ready applications will vary due to a number of factors, including the need for further investigation or external checking, the large proportion of applications which are assessment ready and the need to progress other applications in a fair and timely manner.

Applications which are “assessment ready” are automatically identified as such by us when we receive them and so there is no need to contact us separately about this.

We are unable to provide progress reports for applications lodged less than 13 months ago. If your application was lodged more than 13 months ago, the preferred mechanism for seeking an update on the status of that application is to write to the email box of the relevant processing team. Requests for priority processing on the grounds of special circumstances should also be directed to these email mailboxes."

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Old 04-27-2013, 07:53 PM
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It would be really nice if someone would update their website processing times so that people actually know what's going on. But that probably won't happen! Sigh.

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I just get the impression here that people see the "I got approved in 10 days!" Posts... And then between that and their belief that a decision ready application gets them priority processing... Sets them up for big disappointments.
I also see a lot of people who think the process is going to be easy... Quotes like, "how hard can it be to prove we love each other".... And people who think that they can't possibly be denied because its so easy and even though they have no evidence and haven't lived together, they've been boyfriend and girlfriend....
It's a hard road and a tough reality... But there is too much naïveté out there about it.

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Old 04-27-2013, 08:25 PM
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I saw someone post yesterday that they were sure they would be approved in six months or less because they had great evidence (hi, if you're reading this! Can't remember who it was). I almost posted back, but then decided against it. Almost all of us have really compelling evidence... that doesn't speed up processing time, unfortunately, and to make plans around thinking it will would be setting oneself up for disappointment.

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Old 04-27-2013, 08:41 PM
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I saw one who assured us 4 months or less for the same reasons...That's what spurred me to post this. Also, that poor girl who is trying to do a one year trip overseas with her partner, but because of the processing time extensions on onshore visas, their plans are all messed up. Perhaps if she had known not to trust the posted processing times, she might have applied offshore and saved herself this stress.

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I went in expecting 15 months or more before I'd hear anything.

Apart from getting frustrated when I see quick grants (come on, everyone waiting must know how it feels to watch others get approved in a few weeks...) I really don't expect much. Part of me knew there was a tiny chance we'd be a quick grant, especially since we had been together longer than some people who have gotten quick grants, but we were never counting on it in any way, shape or form.

We've had a lot of bad luck (partner injured several times) so we were counting on some more just to be safe.

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Definitely agree with you Nelly! The past few weeks I have had terrible luck in regards to administration and bureaucracy - so much so that when I saw the DIAC letter my heart sunk and I felt nauseous. I hope you guys finish with a good omen like us!

I was fully prepared to wait it out for over a year to hear anything about my partner's case and had accepted the consequences (i.e. bridging visas, uncertainty etc). I was reluctant to even hand in a DRA but it just happened that way. While I'm obviously ecstatic he got approved to quickly, on the whole the system is incredibly frustrating and chaotic. No idea why our case got accepted in a month when there are others with strong cases still waiting.

I think you have to be super realistic (to the point of almost being pessimistic!) about waiting times and explore all the options and possible outcomes before you apply. You could be one of the lucky ones but the odds aren't in your favour.

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I saw someone post yesterday that they were sure they would be approved in six months or less because they had great evidence (hi, if you're reading this! Can't remember who it was). I almost posted back, but then decided against it. Almost all of us have really compelling evidence... that doesn't speed up processing time, unfortunately, and to make plans around thinking it will would be setting oneself up for disappointment.
That was possibly me, I'm confident my fiance's PMV will be approved within 6 months. Happy to be proven wrong though. I base my confidence on those that have submitted decision ready PMV's, submitted more than adequate evidence and who's cases are simple. Plus, my fiance is here in Perth on a Tourist Visa, without condition 8503 and she'll be staying here until DIAC instruct her to go back home for the decision. We'll apply for extensions on her TV until the decision is ready to be made.

There's plenty of cases to prove those that applied for PMV's from Philippines who have met the criteria required by DIAC get their Visa's approved within 6 months. PMV/820 Visa applications from Philippines do get processed quicker than those from 'low risk' countries.

However, I do agree with the OP's posts. Yesterday I read someone posting if they should apply for a PMV or 820 for their partner from the Philippines. They met on a online dating site, never met in person, expect to apply for a PMV/820 and believe DIAC will accept their relationship as genuine. As mentioned, there are plenty of people setting themselves up for a fall. One thing that concerns me is when sponsors say "I cant afford to visit my partner overseas" yet you need to convince DIAC you have the financial capacity to support your partner for 12 months in Australia.....how does one explain that? DIAC aren't silly

Reality is not all visa's are granted, DIAC have their reasons why and you find out when a visa is disallowed.


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Definitely agree with you Nelly! The past few weeks I have had terrible luck in regards to administration and bureaucracy - so much so that when I saw the DIAC letter my heart sunk and I felt nauseous. I hope you guys finish with a good omen like us!

I was fully prepared to wait it out for over a year to hear anything about my partner's case and had accepted the consequences (i.e. bridging visas, uncertainty etc). I was reluctant to even hand in a DRA but it just happened that way. While I'm obviously ecstatic he got approved to quickly, on the whole the system is incredibly frustrating and chaotic. No idea why our case got accepted in a month when there are others with strong cases still waiting.

I think you have to be super realistic (to the point of almost being pessimistic!) about waiting times and explore all the options and possible outcomes before you apply. You could be one of the lucky ones but the odds aren't in your favour.
Thank you

And yes, it's a matter of accepting consequences. I don't see why the last few miles of that would be a bigger deal - it was hard for him to leave his family behind to be with me in The Netherlands for a year, unemployed (they weren't very keen on hiring people who don't speak Dutch, crisis and all) - it was hard for me to leave my cat behind and sell everything I owned, it's hard for me to miss my family and it was hard to start over, I don't really see why now suddenly at the end while awaiting the verdict I should be worried about not being able to make travel plans. Really that stuff seems trivial to me compared to the whole process start to finish. So we won't travel for a couple of years, so I won't go see my family unless there is a special or serious event, so be it.

We all pay prices for being in an international relationship, more than the application fee - much more. So I personally don't really mind having to wait even two years. That's just how it is - we knew that before we applied, and it's worth it if we get to be together eventually.

But everyone's individual situation is different I suppose!

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It would be really nice if someone would update their website processing times so that people actually know what's going on. But that probably won't happen! Sigh.
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