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Extending 417 - Time Period for Specified Work


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Old 05-07-2013, 01:30 PM
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Extending 417 - Time Period for Specified Work

Hello,

I apologise if this is a question dealt with earlier (I have read a lot of previous posts to see if the answer was here but haven't found it).

I am unsure in my own circumstances, how long I need to work for to qualify - either 3 calendar months (ie 13 weeks /65 days) or 88 days (17.6 weeks). The immi website confuses me with its reference to full time and casual work.

I will state my exact situation and would be obliged if anybody will give me the benefit of their better than mine knowledge. (I have sent a question to the immi website but dont know if they reply or how quickly that will be).

I started work yesterday 6/5/13 on a salad farm in a rural Australia postcode, so I am confident these two fit the requirements.

It is quite small so I haven't been able to nail down all the details yet, but I work 8-5 on weekdays (subject to jobload sometimes an hour or two either way) and there may be some weekends. I am paid by the hours worked. I don't know whether I am Full Time or Part Time / Casual as I don't really know what those definitions legally mean in Australia or indeed what the full circumstances of my employment are yet (That is one reason why I am writing on here to see what I need to find out). I suspect I am Part Time / Casusal.

The example on the website says:
Examples that meet the three month requirement
•Working week
Working on a farm for three months for five days each week, where the industry standard is five days a week of full time work.

I work on a farm, 5 days a week, the industry standard will be that so I think I qualify if I work 3 months from 6 May to 5 August 2013 (ie 13 weeks - 65 days)

However the website also says
Applicants who work part time or on a casual basis can only count the full days actually worked.
Does this mean the criterion applicable is the individual days one, as I am casually employed so it has to be 88 individual days (ie 17.6 weeks at 5 days per week)

As said, can you please help with your own knowledge/experience and tell me which it is (and hopefully the 3 months)

Many thanks


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Old 05-08-2013, 11:17 AM
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After further investigation I think I have the answer to my own query

Farmwork normal Full time pattern is 5 days week out of 7

If you work a normal 5 day week you get 7 days credit towards the 88 days /3 months

Mining (say) at 2 weeks on 2 weeks off gets you 28 days credit for only working 14 (as long as the work done is on the list)

So if you work for 13 weeks in Farming it is (13x7) 91 days, so it covers the 88 day requirement.

Obviously as long as in allowed work in allowed region

Also it doesnt matter if you have a Full time Contract (as legally defined), if you work the nomal working week for farming (35-40 hours in 5 weekdays) then you will be deemed to be "Full Time" for the purposes of assessment, even if you are employed on a part time / casual basis.

If anybody disagrees please let me know


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Just remember that you need to work the minimum standard amount of hours for your industry in order for the day to count towards the 88 days of work. This is usually 7-8 hours worked each day (check with your industry). If you for some reason work less than the required amount of hours that day will not count.

Also, if you work 5 days a week, where the industry standard is five days a week of full time work (and as such get credited the full week), just remember that if you were to suddenly only work 4 days one week, you would only get those 4 days, not the full week. I know a LOT of people that have misunderstood this.

The safest thing is to make sure you have done 88 days of actual work.

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Old 05-08-2013, 12:27 PM
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Just remember that you need to work the minimum standard amount of hours for your industry in order for the day to count towards the 88 days of work. This is usually 7-8 hours worked each day (check with your industry). If you for some reason work less than the required amount of hours that day will not count.

Also, if you work 5 days a week, where the industry standard is five days a week of full time work (and as such get credited the full week), just remember that if you were to suddenly only work 4 days one week, you would only get those 4 days, not the full week. I know a LOT of people that have misunderstood this.

The safest thing is to make sure you have done 88 days of actual work.
Noted thank you


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