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Partner Visa 820 - Overwhelmed & in need of help

Firstly let me apologise for all of the questions I am about to ask as I am sure they have been answered on here before.

I have only just joined this forum and so far I have found it very helpful and useful, I am very glad that I stumbled across it when doing research for the Partner Visa 820.

I am wanting to know how much proof you need to provide with your application. My partner is from Canada and most of our relationship has been there as I live there for 2 years, I have copies of all of our rental agreements and joint account showing that we both pay rent, bills and groceries etc. we also have wedding invitations, birthday invites etc. along with our stat decs would this seem enough to apply? Is it handy to register our relationship and what exactly does that mean?

also with our stat decs how many people to do we need to write one for us and can it be a relative?

I have also read that they do not want you to put your application in a folder or plastic sleeves and that a paper clip/clamp would suffice. do I need to put a table of contents etc?

any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated.


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Hi there and welcome

We submitted our application last week after gathering evidence for 4 solid months.

We included a cover letter which outlined our (at times complex) situation. We then followed this with a table of contents stating exactly what was included.

We divided our application into section which were: 1) personal documents - applicant, 2) personal documents - sponsor, 3) evidence of genuine & continuing relationship (including timeline of significant relationship events, our written relationship history and 5 stat decs (3 family, 2 friends), 4) finance and nature of the household, 5) social context of the relationship, and lastly 6) nature of our committment.

Each section had a cover page with contents clearly listed and was kepy together with a bulldog clip.

I hope this helps a little.... it's such a long and exhausting (and at times outright frustrating) process, but I figure that the clearer everything is, the better.

Good luck to you

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Thank you so much for your reply, it does help me and makes it a lot clearer on what we need to present it like.

one more question though, there aren't special forms for the finance and nature of the household are there? it is just evidence compiled and a written letter? and what does social context of the relationship mean? Sorry for all the silly questions my brain has just gone to mush these last few hours ha ha!

It is very emotionally draining and stressful, but I know that it will all be worth it in the end

Goodluck on your application and I hope it gets approved quickly for you.


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Thank you so much for your reply, it does help me and makes it a lot clearer on what we need to present it like.

one more question though, there aren't special forms for the finance and nature of the household are there? it is just evidence compiled and a written letter? and what does social context of the relationship mean? Sorry for all the silly questions my brain has just gone to mush these last few hours ha ha!

It is very emotionally draining and stressful, but I know that it will all be worth it in the end

Goodluck on your application and I hope it gets approved quickly for you.
You're exactly right, there are no forms for those sections. Instead, you might like to include a statement for each section which provides an overview and then both sign it - we did this for our finance/household section, and also for the section on the nature of our commitment where we outlined our plans for the future etc.

The social context section is all about providing evidence regarding the social aspects of your relationship - we provided wedding and birthday invitations addressed to us both, photos of us on holiday together with bank statements which show evidence of the vacation, photos of us together at various events (especially when we are pictured with friends), out gym cards which show we attend the same gym etc.

We bought a big folder to begin with and divided it into sections and then began to gather our evidence by sorting info into the relevant sections....

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You're exactly right, there are no forms for those sections. Instead, you might like to include a statement for each section which provides an overview and then both sign it - we did this for our finance/household section, and also for the section on the nature of our commitment where we outlined our plans for the future etc.

The social context section is all about providing evidence regarding the social aspects of your relationship - we provided wedding and birthday invitations addressed to us both, photos of us on holiday together with bank statements which show evidence of the vacation, photos of us together at various events (especially when we are pictured with friends), out gym cards which show we attend the same gym etc.

We bought a big folder to begin with and divided it into sections and then began to gather our evidence by sorting info into the relevant sections....

Sing out if you need any help
I am looking through the Migration booklet and reading everything over and I was wondering about the health checks. It says on the website that you have to fill out a form to take with you to your health check appointment and I am not too sure which form that is, does that sound right? Also with my partners police check from Australia, does he need to provide one if he has only been living here for 6 months?

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I am looking through the Migration booklet and reading everything over and I was wondering about the health checks. It says on the website that you have to fill out a form to take with you to your health check appointment and I am not too sure which form that is, does that sound right? Also with my partners police check from Australia, does he need to provide one if he has only been living here for 6 months?

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You actually have to take two forms with you (Form 26 and Form 160), along with your Passport and two passport-size photos. Also, if you wear glasses or contacts, bring those with you as well. And if you have any known medical conditions and see a specialist for them, bring a report from them too (I can give you more details on what should be in it if this applies to you). Also, try to schedule it when it isn't "that time of the month" for you. That's something I didn't know/think about, and I scheduled mine for the day before I'm due to start... hoping I'm not a day early this month! If you are, you have to go back and redo the urine test, which for me would require a 2 hour drive to get back up there, and 2 more hours back. Ugh.

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I am wanting to know how much proof you need to provide with your application. My partner is from Canada and most of our relationship has been there as I live there for 2 years, I have copies of all of our rental agreements and joint account showing that we both pay rent, bills and groceries etc. we also have wedding invitations, birthday invites etc. along with our stat decs would this seem enough to apply? Is it handy to register our relationship and what exactly does that mean?

also with our stat decs how many people to do we need to write one for us and can it be a relative?
1) If the rental agreements and joint bank details cover the 2 years you were living in Canada... your evidence is looking pretty solid.
2) Registering the relationship waives the 12 month living together requirement. It also provides you with legal "proof" of your de facto status. It's like getting married, but with a different name and not quite all the rights. I imagine DIAC looks at it with a grain of salt. There was probably a time when it was considered a sign of taking a relationship seriously -- but I think now it's mostly being used by couples trying to get around the 12 month living together requirement without getting married.
3) Two is the minimum number of stat decs you must provide. They can be from relatives, but I wouldn't use ONLY relatives if I were you (although, I haven't heard of anyone having a problem doing that.) Stat decs must be less than 6 weeks old and if it's possible, you should get them from Aussie citizens and permanent residents as they carry more weight. There is no question on the form "do you believe the couple is in a DE FACTO relationship" -- but apparently the words "DE FACTO RELATIONSHIP" can be very important.... so ask your friends/relatives to work it in there somewhere.

It looks like your evidence covers the cohabitation (rental agreements), social (invitations), and financial (joint bank accounts) aspects. What you appear to be missing is the nature of commitment aspect.

For nature of commitment, it is common to name each other in Wills, as beneficiaries on superannuation/retirement funds, show evidence that you have kept in close contact during any periods of separation, offer any documents where you've named each other as next of kin or emergency contact, show evidence of future planning like a savings account or maybe you've applied for a mortgage together...
Think about ways you've changed your life to accomadate this relationship or plan for its future. Find a way to document it or at least put it in a stat dec.

Good luck

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1) If the rental agreements and joint bank details cover the 2 years you were living in Canada... your evidence is looking pretty solid.
2) Registering the relationship waives the 12 month living together requirement. It also provides you with legal "proof" of your de facto status. It's like getting married, but with a different name and not quite all the rights. I imagine DIAC looks at it with a grain of salt. There was probably a time when it was considered a sign of taking a relationship seriously -- but I think now it's mostly being used by couples trying to get around the 12 month living together requirement without getting married.
3) Two is the minimum number of stat decs you must provide. They can be from relatives, but I wouldn't use ONLY relatives if I were you (although, I haven't heard of anyone having a problem doing that.) Stat decs must be less than 6 weeks old and if it's possible, you should get them from Aussie citizens and permanent residents as they carry more weight. There is no question on the form "do you believe the couple is in a DE FACTO relationship" -- but apparently the words "DE FACTO RELATIONSHIP" can be very important.... so ask your friends/relatives to work it in there somewhere.

It looks like your evidence covers the cohabitation (rental agreements), social (invitations), and financial (joint bank accounts) aspects. What you appear to be missing is the nature of commitment aspect.

For nature of commitment, it is common to name each other in Wills, as beneficiaries on superannuation/retirement funds, show evidence that you have kept in close contact during any periods of separation, offer any documents where you've named each other as next of kin or emergency contact, show evidence of future planning like a savings account or maybe you've applied for a mortgage together...
Think about ways you've changed your life to accomadate this relationship or plan for its future. Find a way to document it or at least put it in a stat dec.

Good luck
Excellent thank you so much that really helps me a lot. I know that we have great evidence for living together, but I was confused about the nature of the relationship section. Now I am not, you have helped a great deal so thank you again, I have named him as a beneficiary on my superannuation so I will get a copy of that, would i just write to my superannuation fund and ask them for it?

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You actually have to take two forms with you (Form 26 and Form 160), along with your Passport and two passport-size photos. Also, if you wear glasses or contacts, bring those with you as well. And if you have any known medical conditions and see a specialist for them, bring a report from them too (I can give you more details on what should be in it if this applies to you). Also, try to schedule it when it isn't "that time of the month" for you. That's something I didn't know/think about, and I scheduled mine for the day before I'm due to start... hoping I'm not a day early this month! If you are, you have to go back and redo the urine test, which for me would require a 2 hour drive to get back up there, and 2 more hours back. Ugh.
My partner is the one applying for the visa as he is Canadian, is it just him that has to get the medical or would I as the sponsor have to have one too?


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You don't need one. I imagine your super fund should be able to get that info for you. Does he have anything similar? You can print out really easy Will forms you get on the Internet - those will help too.

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