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Old 10-16-2019, 11:30 AM
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Hi everyone!
I've got a question regarding my husbands 801 visa. We applied 8 months late back in may 2018 under the advice of our migration agent (we were actually eligible to apply back in Sept 2017, as he got his 820 visa in Sept 2015.) At the time I think the government stopped sending out notifications for applying, so we waited. We applied through our migration agent who applied via post. Since then, we haven't heard anything back from immigration and our migration agent keeps telling us to sit back and wait patiently. However, I believe it is now 17 months since we applied, and 24 months since we were eligible. I was wondering if I should contact the immigration department through an enquiry form, and ask if there's any updates or if we need to upload anymore documents.

Are we asking a bit too soon (should we wait a bit longer til at least may 2020)? If not, can someone share their experience with the enquiry form. What did you write in the form, that may have prompted them to look at your case. Just a bit worried that they'll see it as us nagging, but obviously it's a bit hard for us to plan our future when we're not told what's happening in the near future.

Summary (updated)
820 applied: Sept 15, 2015
820 visa granted: Sept 21st, 2015
801 visa eligibility: should have been sept 2017
801 visa actually applied: May 31, 2018
(applied via post, through same migration agent, both times)
Currently still waiting, no news and haven't heard anything from immigration.

Thank you!!


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Old 10-16-2019, 11:44 AM
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Thanks everyone for your prompt response. The requested evidence are in relation to: Nature of household, financial aspect of the relationship, social aspect and nature of commitment to each other. All these have been provided. But I'm just wondering if there is need to continuing uploading an updates until a decision is made or i should just leave it as it is? Thanks guys


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Summary:
820 visa granted: Oct 2015
801 visa eligibility: should have been Oct 2017
801 visa actually applied: May 2018
(applied via post, through same migration agent, both times)
Currently still waiting, no news and haven't heard anything from immigration.

Thank you!!
You were actually eligible to apply for the 801, 24 months after you APPLIED for the 820.

You haven't said what date you applied, but it means your processing time must be even longer, and therefore more than 24 months.

You should submit an enquiry, asking if they are stiil needing anything from you, as you have exceeded normal processing.

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You were actually eligible to apply for the 801, 24 months after you APPLIED for the 820.

You haven't said what date you applied, but it means your processing time must be even longer, and therefore more than 24 months.

You should submit an enquiry, asking if they are stiil needing anything from you, as you have exceeded normal processing.

Thank you so much for replying!

I just double checked the actual dates:
820 applied: Sept 15, 2015.
820 approved: Sept 21, 2015.
801 applied: May 31, 2018
My husband is from a high risk country.

We thought so to but we listened to the advice of our migration agent and that delayed us a few months. When you said our processing time is longer, does that mean we have to wait even longer than 24 months now? Bit worried the processing time will increase much more since it's nearing Christmas.

We currently no idea what's going on. My husband contacted the migration agent again today and she said the same thing, and that it's a matter of waiting. She also told us that the processing time is 2 years from when we applied, not when we were eligible so that's why we've been apprehensive about contacting immigration. We asked if she needed anything more from us and she said no, it's all up to date.

Do you have any advice as to what we should we say on the enquiry form? I've heard you need to be specific, but not sure how so. I mean we thought we sent them everything and even our migration agent said everything's all in order, and that no communication is good communication.


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We currently no idea what's going on. My husband contacted the migration agent again today and she said the same thing, and that it's a matter of waiting. She also told us that the processing time is 2 years from when we applied, not when we were eligible so that's why we've been apprehensive about contacting immigration.
I've seen 801's granted just a few weeks after a late 801 submission, but about 18 months after eligibility.

Ours was granted 6 months after submission, but 9 months after eligibility.

I am pretty sure that processing times are quoted from eligibility, based on this from home affairs.

​Processing time for subclass 801 Partner (permanent) visa and 100 Partner (permanent) visa is from date of eligibility (2 years after the 820/801 or 309/100 application is lodged) to finalisation.

If your agent has told you that the processing time is 2 years from when you applied, not when you were eligible, I would be a bit concerned.

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My husband contacted the migration agent again today and she said the same thing, and that it's a matter of waiting. She also told us that the processing time is 2 years from when we applied, not when we were eligible so that's why we've been apprehensive about contacting immigration. We asked if she needed anything more from us and she said no, it's all up to date.
This is the link to the home affairs dept website which states that processing time for 801 starts from date of eligibility.

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visa...cessing-times#

Also you mentioned that your agent submitted your 801 by post in May 2018?

My understanding is that all partner visa applications were switched to online from 18th Nov 2017. I know that from this date onwards they did not accept anymore stage one postal applications. Whether they still accept stage two postal applications after this date I do not know.

We submitted our 820 by post 2 years ago and received an email telling us to submit our second stage via the online immi portal. There is no mention of the postal option in the email.


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We currently no idea what's going on. My husband contacted the migration agent again today and she said the same thing, and that it's a matter of waiting. She also told us that the processing time is 2 years from when we applied, not when we were eligible so that's why we've been apprehensive about contacting immigration.
I've seen 801's granted just a few weeks after a late 801 submission, but about 18 months after eligibility.

Ours was granted 6 months after submission, but 9 months after eligibility.

I am pretty sure that processing times are quoted from eligibility, based on this from home affairs.

​Processing time for subclass 801 Partner (permanent) visa and 100 Partner (permanent) visa is from date of eligibility (2 years after the 820/801 or 309/100 application is lodged) to finalisation.

If your agent has told you that the processing time is 2 years from when you applied, not when you were eligible, I would be a bit concerned.


Thanks jandande! I've just messaged my migration agent and she said the waiting time is 2-3 years(?) I'm a bit concerned that she's giving us misinformation (same with the 801 application, hence why we applied 8 months late). Should we consider uploading onto the immi account? I will definitely be sending that enquiry form.


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I just double checked the actual dates:
820 applied: Sept 15, 2015.
820 approved: Sept 21, 2015.
801 applied: May 31, 2018
My husband is from a high risk country.
Just to compare your application to others who applied for the 820 at the same time.

Three 801 grants from 820's submitted when you did yours:

820 Applied: September 2015 (Paper application from Vietnam)
820 Granted: March 2017
801 Eligible: September 2017
801 Applied: September 2017 (6 months after 820 granted, but 24 months after 820 applied)
801 Granted: March 2018

820 applied: 07/09/15.
820 granted: 05/10/16.
801 Eligible: 07/09/17.
801 applied: 07/09/17, (11 months after 820 granted, but 24 months after 820 applied).
801 Granted: 14/05/19

820 applied: 14/09/15.
820 granted: 28/03/17.
801 Eligible:14/09/17.
801 applied: 18/09/17, (6 months after 820 granted, but 24 months after 820 application).
801 Granted: 24/05/19


Our own application:
820 applied: 14/05/16.
820 Granted: 18/08/16.
801 Eligible: 14/05/18.
801 applied: 04/08/18 (3 months after eligible to apply, 24 months after 820 granted, but 27 months after 820 applied)
801 Granted: 20/02/19.

You applied for your 801, 2 months before we did.

Is your agent a MARA registered agent?

You say from a high risk country. What country is that? (the above examples include Vietnam and Philippines)

I would suggest contacting immigration and maybe mentioning that your agent seems to have given you incorrect information, and that you are worried about how well your application has been submitted, especially as others, who applied in the same month, were finalised between 5 and 19 months before today.
Ask if anything is missing from your application, so you can submit anything required.

Partner (Permanent) Processing Centres Enquiry Form
https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/help...s-enquiry-form

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My husband contacted the migration agent again today and she said the same thing, and that it's a matter of waiting. She also told us that the processing time is 2 years from when we applied, not when we were eligible so that's why we've been apprehensive about contacting immigration. We asked if she needed anything more from us and she said no, it's all up to date.
This is the link to the home affairs dept website which states that processing time for 801 starts from date of eligibility.

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visa...cessing-times#

Also you mentioned that your agent submitted your 801 by post in May 2018?

My understanding is that all partner visa applications were switched to online from 18th Nov 2017. I know that from this date onwards they did not accept anymore stage one postal applications. Whether they still accept stage two postal applications after this date I do not know.

We submitted our 820 by post 2 years ago and received an email telling us to submit our second stage via the online immi portal. There is no mention of the postal option in the email.

Thank you jeanros! I will definitely be chasing this up with our migration agent as I'm now having doubts. Would it be worth it maybe applying online again?


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Thanks jandande! I've just messaged my migration agent and she said the waiting time is 2-3 years(?) I'm a bit concerned that she's giving us misinformation (same with the 801 application, hence why we applied 8 months late). Should we consider uploading onto the immi account? I will definitely be sending that enquiry form.
The average processing time for the 31 subclass 801ís finalised on this forum (that I have seen) between July and now has been 11.3 months.

25% took between 3 and 10 months
25% took between 10 and 11 months
25% took between 11 and 12 months
15% took between 12 and 14 months
10% took between 14 and 32 months

From that you will see that most (65%) took between 10 and 14 months. (ie: 34 to 38 months after 820 application date). Yours is currently 48 months after 820 application date.

The global timeline in August was 75% done under 17 months, with probably many at about 12 months. (ie: 36 months after 820 application date)

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