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Subclass 600 versus Subclass 651


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Old 04-24-2017, 07:47 PM
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Subclass 600 versus Subclass 651

Hi guys,

I'm trying to get to Australia to help out a friend who just started a business. I'm a consultant but I won't be actually working for him as I won't change him any money for my services, I will just help him draw a business plan and a marketing strategy. However, I don't know what visa to apply for.

After doing some research on the border patrol's website I narrowed things down to two visas: subclass 600 and subclass 651. They seem very much the same and that's why I need your help in choosing which one would be better.

The subclass 600 seems to be the better choice as I can apply for a 3-month visa to have a better chance at actually getting it, only to apply for an extension from Australia, if needed. My estimates say I won't need more than 3 months but you never know...

The subclass 651 visa seems like it will grant you 12 months of visiting privileges but only for three months at a time. Does that mean that I only need to exit Australia every three months? Can I go on a holiday for a week and return to reset the counter? Does that work? Also the 651 visa seems to be processed faster and is cheaper, even though AUD136 for subclass 600 are no problem whatsoever.

Does anyone have any experience with these visas? Any suggestions? Am I right in my assumptions? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


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Old 04-25-2017, 02:41 AM
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I am very sure DIBP will consider that "working" I know there are restrictions on what is "voluntary work" and helping friends does not qualify.


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You can apply for a subclass 600 in the business stream. This allows you to activities related to business without getting paid for them. This includes things such as business meetings etc.

The 651 is normally a 12 months visa with 3 months per stay. You can apply for an extension in Australia if you need to go beyond the 3 months. Alternatively, you can take a short holiday in New Zealand or Bali and come back. The general rule is no more that 12 months in Australia in 18 months.

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Jeremy is a respected agent on here and has access to more information than the general public such as PAM 3.

But from DIBP form is this.

Business visitor
activities include:
• attending meetings, conferences and negotiations;

- I don't see doing a Business plan or marketing strategy being covered by this

• investigating personal investment or job opportunities;

- Nor this section

• representing a foreign government on official business; and

- I think not relevant.

• representing a overseas entity in negotiations and
investigations of business opportunities.

- No representation of an overseas entity, so not relevant.

I would suggest contacting a RMA such as Jeremy for guidance on this.

To me it seems you are just doing a job/s for a friend for free, and there are a number of Australians that could do this job/s and get paid for it.


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You can apply for a subclass 600 in the business stream. This allows you to activities related to business without getting paid for them. This includes things such as business meetings etc.

The 651 is normally a 12 months visa with 3 months per stay. You can apply for an extension in Australia if you need to go beyond the 3 months. Alternatively, you can take a short holiday in New Zealand or Bali and come back. The general rule is no more that 12 months in Australia in 18 months.
Thanks a lot Jeremy. I will apply for a subclass 600 visa. Once I get to Australia, in case I need an extension, I'll definitely be looking for your help.

Thank you too ampk, I appreciate your input. Yes, you're right, some Australian citizen/company could help out my friend and get paid but as is the case with new companies, money is tight and yes, we could try and do this remotely but I'm also interested in visiting Australia and face to face communication is still the best way to do business IMHO.


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How to attach more docs

I have yet another question regarding my application. I can't seem to find a way to add additional documents to support my claim. I can only attach certain documents, only those required by them. How do I attach a letter explaining why I need to go to Australia? I attached everything they required but what if I want to attach more docs. They claim I can post up to 60 attachments but I have only 7 'attach' buttons on the page as you can see in the pic posted.



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