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Old 12-21-2019, 10:46 AM
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It was one of the larger embassies yet apparently they only do about 12-20 of these per year.

I was told the embassy typically does ceremonies twice per year but unofficially they can arrange it anytime in case you have compelling reasons (need it faster for travel for example). They do not advertise this
I'm kind of curious as to how many of these cases they get. In London they also said it's about 5 a month - so maybe 60 a year. And thats for all of Europe. Everyone who was there the same day as me was in a similar situation - live in Australia for several years in the past but then moved overseas with an Australian partner (and kids).
Do you know how many countries / which area was served for citzenship, issues by your embassy?


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Old 12-23-2019, 12:44 PM
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Well unfortunately everyone will just give us the run-around until HA moves forward with the "final approval".

My embassy person made it clear that this is the final step and that there is nothing anyone can do except HA (except unofficially they can send an internal note to try to chase it up on your behalf). I suppose OCU would perhaps tend to pay attention to internal communication from a diplomatic mission. But who knows.

I already e-mailed them once and they went back to silent mode for now he he

Clearly the embassy and the council are just executing orders from HA ("do test", "interview person", "execute a ceremony").

However, if I were you I would eventually e-mail HA and mention that you wish to do the ceremony in Australia. If you're lucky someone will pay attention and it will not go back to the embassy but rather maybe directly to your council of choice.

But that' all details. For now we wait again ...


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Oh and merry christmas ! : D


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However, if I were you I would eventually e-mail HA and mention that you wish to do the ceremony in Australia. If you're lucky someone will pay attention and it will not go back to the embassy but rather maybe directly to your council of choice.

But that' all details. For now we wait again ...
So, thats exactly what happened today. I had check with Hobart City council and they have a date next year that would suit me well. I then wrote to OCU to see if I could have my ceremony in Tasmania rather than London. Initially, I had not heard anything back (but then again it was the Christmas / New Year period). This week I put in an official complaint (Here) since it's been officially two years since I applied. Within less than 6h I had a reply, telling me I need to provide a Tasmanian Address if I want to have the ceremony in Hobart. Once I provided that, my account ticked over to "Approved" this morning, after two years of no update. Hooray!


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Very nice ! Congratulations

I was cutting some onion a week before leaving for a trip back to Australia in early Jan and I managed to cut off a piece of my finger. After a few hours, I got an e-mail from OCU about needing yet another police check, which of course requires fingerprints.

So I had to wait until the day we left for the finger to heal and send the fingerprints to the cops, and then wait again until I got back from Australia a few weeks later before I could scan/upload the results.

I did that a week ago on Monday and today when I happened to log into the immi account, the citizenship says "approved" so I am now expecting to hear from the embassy about scheduling the ceremony! It says "Last update" was on Thurdsday so that's probably when they approved it ...

All in all, a good experience with a few bumbs along the way.

Good luck with your life in Australia, I just can't wait !!!!


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I was cutting some onion a week before leaving for a trip back to Australia in early Jan and I managed to cut off a piece of my finger. After a few hours, I got an e-mail from OCU about needing yet another police check, which of course requires fingerprints.

So I had to wait until the day we left for the finger to heal and send the fingerprints to the cops, and then wait again until I got back from Australia a few weeks later before I could scan/upload the results.
Oh wow, what a ridiculous coincidence! It's quite funny in hindsight, but I'm sure it would have been pretty annoying at the time.

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I did that a week ago on Monday and today when I happened to log into the immi account, the citizenship says "approved" so I am now expecting to hear from the embassy about scheduling the ceremony! It says "Last update" was on Thursday so that's probably when they approved it ...
I got my letter 14 days after the Immi-System ticked to "approved". The letter was a bit of a let-down though because they didn't actually give me a date for the ceremony, they just sent their congratulations and let me know that I will have to sit a ceremony within the next 12 months and that i'd hear from them more closer to the scheduled ceremony. So I still don't have anything official, other than a confirmation that it's all gone through.

Congratulations on the whole process - it's quite a relief when it's finally approved, isn't it! Especially after ovet two years of waiting.


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Hi everyone!

First post.

I'm Australian and my wife is from PNG. We now have 4 years with my wife on a tourist and then partner visa and just over 12 months with PR.

We are looking to apply for her citizenship and wondering if everyone just did the ministerial discretion 5 by themselves through the online application or you used an immigration lawyer?

As an airline pilot, I've been following the work around the world and my wife has moved with me wherever I've gone. We started in PNG then Aus , back to PNG, Aus, Poland, Czech Rep, USA, France, Hungary, Romania and now Moldova.

We own a property in Aus (in my name) and both have family in Aus. I will probably have one more job in China before returning to Aus for good.

Thanks!


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Welcome to the forum AussiePilot.

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We are looking to apply for her citizenship and wondering if everyone just did the ministerial discretion 5 by themselves through the online application or you used an immigration lawyer?
I did it all myself - but then again I quite enjoy searching through regulations and am confident I can interpret it correctly. It's not all too complicated if you know how to read and write well. But I think you do want to put together solid evidence and explain your situation well.


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As an airline pilot, I've been following the work around the world and my wife has moved with me wherever I've gone. We started in PNG then Aus , back to PNG, Aus, Poland, Czech Rep, USA, France, Hungary, Romania and now Moldova.

We own a property in Aus (in my name) and both have family in Aus. I will probably have one more job in China before returning to Aus for good.
Based on this, I certainly think you've got a good chance. Seems like the kind of situation this exemption was intended for.


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I'm Australian and my wife is from PNG. We now have 4 years with my wife on a tourist and then partner visa and just over 12 months with PR.
However, I don't think she qualifies yet. read the clause carefully:

5. If you are the spouse or de facto partner of an Australian citizen, or surviving spouse or de facto partner of an Australian citizen at the time you make your application, and you spent time outside Australia as a permanent resident in the 4 years immediately before making your application, you may treat those periods of absence as time in Australia if, during each period of absence:
• you were the spouse or de facto partner of that Australian citizen, and
• they were an Australian citizen, and
• you maintained a close and continuing association with Australia.


I'm pretty sure this implies, that the "being outside of Australia" exemption is only applied to permanent residents. Or in other words, all time on tourist visas only counts if you are physically in Australia. So I'm fairly confident she's only eligible for citizenship 4 years after the 309 provisional visa was converted to a 100 permanent visa. It was the same for me, i put in my application 4 years after receiving the 100 permanent migrant visa.


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Hi tomberli, thanks for that!

Hmm, I'll have to look further into the 4 years if it's only whilst on permanent residency or not.

Cheers,

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Well, my ceremony at the embassy got cancelled back in March so I just decided to wait and see.

Last week I was suddenly invited to a video ceremony and now I have finally become citizen after 20+ months. The immi account ticked over from "approved" to "finalised".

Apparently they do remote ceremonies for offshore applicants!

Now I just need to wait for the certificate in the mail so I can apply for the passport and then enter Australia as a citizen for the first time.

A new life begins !

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