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Old 07-08-2013, 10:35 AM
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Not sure if this is the right section but i hope someone here can give me some advice.

So lets get started I am from Australia and my fiance is from Romania. We are looking at her coming here for a bit and we are not quiet sure how to go about it. We were thinking of going for a 12 month visitors visa, however with that visa you must provide proof that you have the funds to support yourself while she would be in australia. So here is the main question could i found her while she is on her trip here (which i will be doing anyway) and how do i go about proving i will be founding here trip and supporting her while she is here as she will be staying with me and i will be paying for everything while shes here.

We know there is the Partner (Temporary) (subclass 820) visa however it is very expensive and there is a chance that it might not be approved and as we are saving for our wedding we would rather not take that chance to loose so much money when it could go towards our wedding.

Anyway another reason why we are looking at the 12 month visitor visa is because we would like to be together to plan our wedding we are thinking that she will come here around dec and stay here with me for 8 month while we save/plan our wedding then go to her country get married and come back and apply for Partner (Permanent) (subclass 100 and 801) visas.

So if anyone would give some advice on the matter it would be greatly appreciated.


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Hi Marcus,

A 12 month tourist visa will be tricky to obtain to be honest, however not impossible. Its been reported that the rough benchmark DIAC use is $1000 per month to fund yourself. You could definitly provide proof of your employment and salary, lease/mortgage and anything else that shows you can afford to support your visitor.

The main thing to remember is tourist visas are for tourists - not for people to come and stay permanently. Additionally DIAC may impose the no further stay condition which would mean your gf would need to leave Australia to apply for the partner visa and not be eligible for the bridging visa. This of course may not happen but its a risk.

So basically you can apply for a long TV, make sure the application is presented for a tourist. Avoid talking about how you plan to apply for another visa onshore - DIAC don't like that. Plans for visiting friends/fam, tourist destinations ect. Your gf should get 12 month backpacker insurance inc medical cover too.

I think this option is too high risk and you should look into applying for the prospective marriage visa then apply for a tourist visa to join you this way. DIAC are far more understanding with partners coming on tourist visas when you've already applied for a substantiative visa.

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Old 07-08-2013, 03:06 PM
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A tourist visa is probably highly unlikely for you (albeit not necessarily completely impossible). Romania is one of the countries for which DIAC is most stingy with the tourist visas because of what they see as a high risk for people from that country not leaving once their tourist visa ends. I would highly suggest engaging a migration agent if you're dead set on going the tourist visa route - but even with help, like kmarees said - if you're lucky enough to get it, there may very well be a "no further stay" condition on it that prevents her from applying onshore. A PMV would be much more straightforward for you and less prone to problems.

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Old 07-09-2013, 06:42 AM
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I would strongly suggest the PMV route. A 12 month tourist visa is highly unlikely (but not impossible, as the others have said) coming from a high risk country. One thing to take into account is that they might not take into account your evidence of funds for providing support for your finance. When my fiancee applied for a tourist visa (he is a high risk country) they said that the onus was on him to show he could support himself and would not take into account that I could provide support for him. They also said that there is no minimum amount to show , however DIAC in Australia said $1,000 per month is enough but my fiancee showed more than that and they said it was "limited personal funds".

Also another thing to consider is that once DIAC see your relationship and that you have not applied for a PMV they will probably reject as they will be worried that you will apply for an onshore visa.

How long do you intend to stay in Romania for? Is it just the wedding? Based on the information you have given your fiancee will not qualify for a 801/100, you will need to apply for the 820/309. However, I do strongly suggest the PMV as it does not require as much evidence.


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I would strongly suggest the PMV route. A 12 month tourist visa is highly unlikely (but not impossible, as the others have said) coming from a high risk country. One thing to take into account is that they might not take into account your evidence of funds for providing support for your finance. When my fiancee applied for a tourist visa (he is a high risk country) they said that the onus was on him to show he could support himself and would not take into account that I could provide support for him. They also said that there is no minimum amount to show , however DIAC in Australia said $1,000 per month is enough but my fiancee showed more than that and they said it was "limited personal funds".

Also another thing to consider is that once DIAC see your relationship and that you have not applied for a PMV they will probably reject as they will be worried that you will apply for an onshore visa.

How long do you intend to stay in Romania for? Is it just the wedding? Based on the information you have given your fiancee will not qualify for a 801/100, you will need to apply for the 820/309. However, I do strongly suggest the PMV as it does not require as much evidence.
Good pick up Mish - You are not eligible for the permanent visa (100 OFFSHORE/801 ONSHORE) unless you have:
A) Received a temporary 2 year equivalent (309/820)
B) You have been together for at least 3 years in a defacto or married relationship.
C) You have a child and have been together for at least 2 years in a defacto or married relationship.

Have a look back over the partner visa options to get a better understanding of how each visa works.

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We know there is the Partner (Temporary) (subclass 820) visa however it is very expensive and there is a chance that it might not be approved and as we are saving for our wedding we would rather not take that chance to loose so much money when it could go towards our wedding.
Ok now I see, see my previous comment. You can't have the permanent one without the temporary one i'm afraid.

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hmm thank you all for the advice i will take it all on board and see what we can come up with. cant believe how hard it is to just be with the one you love looks like we will be in for a long tough road ahead. Anyway ill come back with updates/reports as to how its going. Also to hopefully continue to get support/advice on the matter.

I also seen the sponsor visa is that also a option we should look into?

Also @ mish we would be in romania for maybe 3-4 weeks depending on how much time my boss would allow me to have off work....


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I also seen the sponsor visa is that also a option we should look into?
All partner visa's require a sponsor who is an Australian resident. Is this what you mean?

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I would strongly suggest the PMV route. A 12 month tourist visa is highly unlikely (but not impossible, as the others have said) coming from a high risk country. One thing to take into account is that they might not take into account your evidence of funds for providing support for your finance. When my fiancee applied for a tourist visa (he is a high risk country) they said that the onus was on him to show he could support himself and would not take into account that I could provide support for him. They also said that there is no minimum amount to show , however DIAC in Australia said $1,000 per month is enough but my fiancee showed more than that and they said it was "limited personal funds".

Also another thing to consider is that once DIAC see your relationship and that you have not applied for a PMV they will probably reject as they will be worried that you will apply for an onshore visa.

How long do you intend to stay in Romania for? Is it just the wedding? Based on the information you have given your fiancee will not qualify for a 801/100, you will need to apply for the 820/309. However, I do strongly suggest the PMV as it does not require as much evidence.
Great advice from Mish overall. The only part I disagree with is the bolded part. My understanding is that DIAC are actually more likely to grant a tourist visa when you've already applied for the PMV. But "more likely" doesn't mean they definitely will, especially from a high risk country like Romania.

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