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Old 07-11-2013, 07:13 AM
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Form 47SP Q55 and 58

My partner and I have been thinking of these two questions again and again but we couldn't figure out what's the difference of these two questions.

Q55 Date de facto relation began
Q58 When did you and your partner commit to shared life together to the exclusion of all others

In the Partner Migration booklet, it states that de facto relationship means two person have a mutual commitment to shared life to the exclusion of all others.

Why do they ask for the same thing again???


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There is a subtle difference... for instance, a couple could "commit" to a shared life together on 1 January, but not move in together and actually begin that shared life together until 12 March. Note that DIAC considers time living together as a key indicator of a defacto relationship.

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There is a subtle difference... for instance, a couple could "commit" to a shared life together on 1 January, but not move in together and actually begin that shared life together until 12 March. Note that DIAC considers time living together as a key indicator of a defacto relationship.

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Thanks for your reply Mark

We have been living together without the commitment to shared life together from Jan 2012 to May 2012 because I rented a place and only spent few days a week over my partner's place; we needed our own space when the relationship was still new. In June 2012 we agreed of living together and I'd move in everything to his place, sharing our life together. In July, I have moved in everything and we started the plan for our future, including forming a family.

Does it mean that I put June 2012 as the date we committed to share life together and July 2012 as our de facto relationship began? Thanks again


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Hi Feng4ver -

Based on the information you've included, that sounds like a reasonable choice. Without access to all of your case info, I can't give you any specific advice - but hope this helps - also remember to make sure your statements align with the dates you include in the forms, etc.

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Hi Feng4ver -

Based on the information you've included, that sounds like a reasonable choice. Without access to all of your case info, I can't give you any specific advice - but hope this helps - also remember to make sure your statements align with the dates you include in the forms, etc.

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Thanks again Mark, I'll keep in mind with that


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Good luck with all!

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Now im getting confused..lol on part d where i tick de facto and then it says date relationship began....do i write the date we moved in together or when the relationship actually began cos ifs it when we moved in together then theres no actual question of how long we've been together?


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And the exclusion of all others question....what date do i write there then? The date we moved in together?


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Now im getting confused..lol on part d where i tick de facto and then it says date relationship began....do i write the date we moved in together or when the relationship actually began cos ifs it when we moved in together then theres no actual question of how long we've been together?
Ozzy in my case anything involving "De Facto" should be when you started living together in one roof. For instance, with me and my partner, we agreed to be together (in a relationship) on Jan. 19, but we started being De Facto (living in) Jan. 21.. Hope this helps..


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Ozzy in my case anything involving "De Facto" should be when you started living together in one roof. For instance, with me and my partner, we agreed to be together (in a relationship) on Jan. 19, but we started being De Facto (living in) Jan. 21.. Hope this helps..
Yes i know that, but it says 'date relationship began' does it mean the relationship or living together (so do i write february 2010 or june 2010 as thad when we moved in together.


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