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can someone review my case, Partner Visa 309 and tell... pls


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Arrow can someone review my case, Partner Visa 309 and tell... pls

Hello guys..

I am silent admirer of this forum, posting for the first time. Please let us know what you think about our case..Partner visa 309.

I prepared case files for my wife.. (doing it for the first time so little nervous, got my PR via an agent's help)

Can you quickly go through my list of evidences and tell is the case for my wife visa (applying for 309 off-shore) strong enough.. or should we get help from MARA..

I (husband) am permanent resident of Aus.
Got married on 1st of Jan,17. I lived with my wife for 52 days before returning to Aus for work.

• We have a Joint bank account opened after 20 days of marriage.

• She lives in my parent's house in Pak, so she or I do not pay bills/rents .. but I gave her some cash and send money to the Joint Bank account monthly for her to withdraw when she needs it.

• Is this enough to support the first question of financial aspects of relationship?

• For nature of household question, as we are living separate for now, but she wrote about our future plans in Aus how we will distribute our work etc.. plans to buy an apartment..

• For social aspect. We added details of our invitations from close family members and have receipts of joint dinners where we were invited by them.. and their affidavits about our relationship..

• For nature of commitments and developments of the relationship between us we have our stories written statements how we met and how we see our relationship in future... but what proofs they want from us to support this one ?


Now for documents attachments: We have marriage certificate. And photos videos of ceremonies and honeymoon pics. Birth certificates, national ID cards etc.

Affidavits from my and her's family members in favor of our marriage n best wishes.

only one forum 888 deceleration by a friend who knows me but her wife talked to my wife once or twice and believes us on having a long term relationship and ready to give us stat dec. I have another friend who can do it for me as he trusts me.. but he does not know my wife. I am thinking about going with only one stat dec 888 plus 5 affidavits written statements from non-Australians (family members living in Pakistan who knows us both)

we have Call logs (whatsapp) 6 months before marriage..and after marriage contact proofs like chats and Call records...


Above all, she is pregnant with my baby.. can or should we show the Dr's report (ultrasound images of baby) as proof of our commitment of long term relationship ? I mean of course its a big thing for us and shows how serious we are in our relationship.. or DIBP will not consider it as proof.

Are these enough evidences for partner 309 visa case ? Are we missing on something.. ? Please let me know in your replies of other strong evidences we need to come up.. (considering we are living separate at the moment till visa approval)

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So at the very least you will need to have 2 Australians fill out Form 888s. They don't need to know her personally, but do need to know you and about your relationship with her.

Honestly, I would recommend paying an agent to review your case. There are several on here who would be able to provide you this service. The cost is pretty insignificant relative to the $7000 your visa application will cost you.

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Hi there

While I can't advise you without knowing your full circumstances, it seems you have not been with your wife for long so providing solid evidence will be very important. One red flag I can see is the lack of any photos together prior to your wedding. You should provide photos from a range of dates throughout your relationship.

I would suggest that you put together your application and then ask an agent to review it and tell you what's missing/how it can be improved. This is a lot cheaper than using an agent to actually manage your whole application (ie put together and lodge the application).

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Getting married before the application may have been a mistake. A PMV might have been the better option for you.

The pregnancy won't help you. It could be anybody's baby. If the baby was born already and you had a birth certificate with both your names on it, it would be helpful.

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Hello guys..

I am silent admirer of this forum, posting for the first time. Please let us know what you think about our case..Partner visa 309.

I prepared case files for my wife.. (doing it for the first time so little nervous, got my PR via an agent's help)

Can you quickly go through my list of evidences and tell is the case for my wife visa (applying for 309 off-shore) strong enough.. or should we get help from MARA..

I (husband) am permanent resident of Aus.
Got married on 1st of Jan,17. I lived with my wife for 52 days before returning to Aus for work.

• We have a Joint bank account opened after 20 days of marriage.

• She lives in my parent's house in Pak, so she or I do not pay bills/rents .. but I gave her some cash and send money to the Joint Bank account monthly for her to withdraw when she needs it.

• Is this enough to support the first question of financial aspects of relationship?

• For nature of household question, as we are living separate for now, but she wrote about our future plans in Aus how we will distribute our work etc.. plans to buy an apartment..

• For social aspect. We added details of our invitations from close family members and have receipts of joint dinners where we were invited by them.. and their affidavits about our relationship..

• For nature of commitments and developments of the relationship between us we have our stories written statements how we met and how we see our relationship in future... but what proofs they want from us to support this one ?


Now for documents attachments: We have marriage certificate. And photos videos of ceremonies and honeymoon pics. Birth certificates, national ID cards etc.

Affidavits from my and her's family members in favor of our marriage n best wishes.

only one forum 888 deceleration by a friend who knows me but her wife talked to my wife once or twice and believes us on having a long term relationship and ready to give us stat dec. I have another friend who can do it for me as he trusts me.. but he does not know my wife. I am thinking about going with only one stat dec 888 plus 5 affidavits written statements from non-Australians (family members living in Pakistan who knows us both)

we have Call logs (whatsapp) 6 months before marriage..and after marriage contact proofs like chats and Call records...


Above all, she is pregnant with my baby.. can or should we show the Dr's report (ultrasound images of baby) as proof of our commitment of long term relationship ? I mean of course its a big thing for us and shows how serious we are in our relationship.. or DIBP will not consider it as proof.

Are these enough evidences for partner 309 visa case ? Are we missing on something.. ? Please let me know in your replies of other strong evidences we need to come up.. (considering we are living separate at the moment till visa approval)

Welcome to the forum.

As it's been said, they require TWO 888 forms from Australian Citizens/PRs.

How long have you been together all in all before marriage?

Do you have any proof of your relationship prior to marriage such as photos, flight tickets together, holidays together etc?


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It is very light on actual evidence, most is statements from family and friends or yourselves (not often these people say bad things).

All the statements give a Case Officer things that they can look at to confirm key points in the statement. If you don't have key points in these statements that can be backed up - they will not hold much weight.

This could be like:- I meet x at Aunty betties birthday, we all went for Dinner at KFC on the 21/1/17. X was introduced to me by Uncle Fred as Y new wife.

* Information prior to you getting PR that DIBP may need to have been informed, may determine what evidence you can use as relationship evidence. Like what did you put on your last entry card into Australia.

If you produce the KFC dinner receipts dated the same day, a photo of you both with the person that wrote the statement at KFC in a birthday environment. It is a statement backed up with proof.

I think you should take the above agents advice, and get what you have checked over

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Welcome to the forum.

As it's been said, they require TWO 888 forms from Australian Citizens/PRs.

How long have you been together all in all before marriage?

Do you have any proof of your relationship prior to marriage such as photos, flight tickets together, holidays together etc?

Ok i will arrange two forms of 888..

It was an arranged marriage but we knew each other as she is a relative of mine (She became my fianc้ over the phone) I was in Australia when the marriage date was decided. So it was not even possible for us to see each other before marriage. Lots of pics were exchanged online via facebook/whatsapp..

However I have 1 pic only just before marriage when we went our shopping for marriage.. and after marriage i have more than 50 of us plus more with including our family members in pics on dinner tables etc..

Having said that, we were in contact via whatsapp about 8 months prior to marriage.. regular calls. Even now we are in contact via whatsapp.

One thing I forgot to mention is I included her as 50% of my superannuation beneficiary (other half is i kept for my parent). Thats and the Joint Bank account is enough for financial aspects of relationship ?

Simple thing is that, we dont have enough photos before marriage as it was an arranged marriage (also its a culture thing to live separate before marriage) I hope case officer understands it as many of my friends from Pakistan and India got approvals under arranged marriages.

So beside pics, what else we are lacking at the moment can you tell please ?


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It is very light on actual evidence, most is statements from family and friends or yourselves (not often these people say bad things).

All the statements give a Case Officer things that they can look at to confirm key points in the statement. If you don't have key points in these statements that can be backed up - they will not hold much weight.

This could be like:- I meet x at Aunty betties birthday, we all went for Dinner at KFC on the 21/1/17. X was introduced to me by Uncle Fred as Y new wife.

* Information prior to you getting PR that DIBP may need to have been informed, may determine what evidence you can use as relationship evidence. Like what did you put on your last entry card into Australia.

If you produce the KFC dinner receipts dated the same day, a photo of you both with the person that wrote the statement at KFC in a birthday environment. It is a statement backed up with proof.

I think you should take the above agents advice, and get what you have checked over
bro i have pics of us with other family members at the Dinner Invitations/get together after marriage and receipt from the restaurant where we were invited and i have affidavits from same family members..I dont have any pics of us before marriage because it was an arranged marriage and it was decided with our approvals over the phone, when i was in Australia.

What else you thing we can come up with to make the case stronger..

Thanks for your feedback!


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Getting married before the application may have been a mistake. A PMV might have been the better option for you.

The pregnancy won't help you. It could be anybody's baby. If the baby was born already and you had a birth certificate with both your names on it, it would be helpful.
Thanks for your feedback;
I didnt understand it though..
how can PMV be an option as for it you need to show de facto relationship poofs of 12 months.. ? while we don't even have any pics before marriage! In our culture we are supposed to live apart before marriage. So keeping these facts, I am looking for suggestions to improve our case.,


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Thanks for your feedback;
I didnt understand it though..
how can PMV be an option as for it you need to show de facto relationship poofs of 12 months.. ?
A PMV is a Prospective Marriage Visa. It does not require living together or being in a de facto relationship. It is for applicants who live outside Australia to join their fiance(e) in Australia for the purpose of getting married.

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