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Old 05-27-2017, 12:14 PM
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There is no requirement to stay or be married in Australia, but the entry must be made before expire date.

You can get married in any country you wish.

If you enter Australia and get married in the 9 months you apply for the next stage.

That normally is the 820 (onshore)

** But now I am not certain? can it be a 309?

I do not know or is it tied in with a bridging visa thing for the PMV?

I do not know. I know there is no requirement other than an entry only for the PMV.


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** But now I am not certain? can it be a 309?
Never heard of anyone doing a PMV/309. There were poeple doing a registry wedding in Aus and a ceremony somewhere else. But never anyone mentioning applying for a 309 after a PMV. And why would you, when the PMV allows you to be in Aus with your partner?

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Yeah, nothing I've read in my research has said you can (or cannot) apply for a 309. I think the assumption is you'll be in Australia. Although in all the DIBP documents it says PMV to 820... I would for sure check with a RMA that applying for a 309 in even possible.

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If you want to go the 3 year relationship route I would be getting a registered migration agent to review your evidence. Based on what you have said it appears to be that you have visited each other twice for short periods, DIBP could see this as dating and not a de facto relationship.


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I think TazCaz is making it unnecessarily difficult. I know it may be a complicated decidion to decide on one country, especially if both a settled in their surroudings, have good jobs etc. but I think the plan of both being able to live/work in each other's countries at any time is just not feasible. It costs a lot of money and nerves to get the visa processed and there are the "time in australia" restrictions, that in the end it might have all been for nothing because they may not fulfill the time period stayed in Australia (or the UK, whatever the visa rules are there). One person has to commit and give up their "life" for now and move. In a couple of years you can still apply for the other country's visa, if you decide to move back.

TazCaz, you don't have a parent who is/was a British citizen by any chance? 10 Pound Pom or something?

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Never heard of anyone doing a PMV/309. There were poeple doing a registry wedding in Aus and a ceremony somewhere else. But never anyone mentioning applying for a 309 after a PMV. And why would you, when the PMV allows you to be in Aus with your partner?
I'll have to go back and read through my notes again - admittedly I've been reading a lot today so I might have gotten my wires crossed. But my thought for the 309 was that if he came to Australia in August and we married, he'd still have a few work obligations back in Scotland and wouldn't be able to live here immediately - and perhaps other long-distance couples might be in the same situation where they have lives that need to be tied up before one partner is able to make the move - so had just assumed the 309 would be the way to go?


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I agree with JanneKL. One thing that needs to considered is that Australia is looking at having it that they must hold PR for atleast 4 years before they apply for citizenship. If this goes through then this is something to think about too.

I think you just need to decide on a country. However depending on your age you could both do the working holiday in each others countries and then at the end of 2 years (1 year in each country gives you time to decide) you can decide which country is the better place to live.


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I agree with JanneKL. One thing that needs to considered is that Australia is looking at having it that they must hold PR for atleast 4 years before they apply for citizenship. If this goes through then this is something to think about too.

I think you just need to decide on a country. However depending on your age you could both do the working holiday in each others countries and then at the end of 2 years (1 year in each country gives you time to decide) you can decide which country is the better place to live.
We're both too old for the working holiday visa unfortunately, but you're right, I think we do need to make a decision. We're just trying to set ourselves up as best we can to be able to live in both countries in the future, so want to make sure we're not sabotaging that by going about things the wrong way.

When you hold PR (in order to get citizenship) - are the rules about how long you can spend outside a country?


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Every poster today and tonight has problems understanding DIBP stuff even RMA's do at times.

Key is to find out as much as you can, then relax for a moment and work towards the better options.

Then unless it is simple and straight forward - consult a RMA to confirm option/s.


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We're both too old for the working holiday visa unfortunately, but you're right, I think we do need to make a decision. We're just trying to set ourselves up as best we can to be able to live in both countries in the future, so want to make sure we're not sabotaging that by going about things the wrong way.

When you hold PR (in order to get citizenship) - are the rules about how long you can spend outside a country?
Yes. In Australia currently it is 1 year PR atleast and total of 4 years with no more than 12 months outside Australia and of that no more than 90 days in the 12 months prior.

The government is looking at changing it to 4 years PR but we will know if it goes ahead later in the year.


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