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Old 08-05-2013, 07:01 AM
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TRA assesment for skille migrsnt visa help !

How easy is it to have your skills assesed by TRA.
Currently I want to apply for skilled migrant visa 342414
I don't have a degree or qualifications as I have worked for a tellecomunications technician for 4 years which I believe 3 years on the job will substitute for formal qualifications . However there asking for certain proof or certified copies of proof. What exactly are they asking for ? I can only really provide proof of employment and a few certificates . Struggling a bit can anyone help ?

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Hi Becksie -

The # years substitute provision can work for temporary visas such as the 457 in cases where no skills assessment is necessary (for some but not all 457's), however for permanent skilled migration a skills assessment is required. TRA unfortunately has very limited options in this regard, and generally require an educational qualification equivalent to an Australian qualification as required for your occupation, or a completed apprenticeship program equivalent to an Australian apprenticeship program as applicable for your occupation.

You may wish to consult with a registered migration agent to review your work experience and the other aspects of your case to determine what the best visa options are for you - it may be that starting with an employer sponsored temporary visa such as the 457 and working under that for 2 years, then being nominated by that employer is a better way to go as it may avoid the skills assessment process.

Hope this helps - sorry I don't have better news - but generally it's better to know these things in advance so you can change your strategy before, rather than after spending thousands of dollars on application fees.

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That's brilliant mark at least I pretty much know where I stand I think I'm going to better of starting with a WHV and seeing when I get out there

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Happy to help - your strategy sounds like a good one, and once you get the lay of the land here you'll be in a much better position to make an informed decision about building a career here and the different migration paths that may be available.

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Happy to help - your strategy sounds like a good one, and once you get the lay of the land here you'll be in a much better position to make an informed decision about building a career here and the different migration paths that may be available.

Best,

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Hi Mark,
I have been reading this forum and I have some queries , presently I am in
state of some confusion and seek valuable your
guidance .
I am 32 years old ,
have 7 overall in IELTS sadly writing has a 6.0 ,
working as a Deputy Manager in finance company
owned by a PSU .. Working in branch operations , I
do have all the documents right from my
appointment letter , confirmation letter ,appraisal
letters , Form 16's , PF statements , salary
credited in savings account. Duties performed by
me are of Training and Development Professionals
working for same company since 2005 September.
Issue I am facing : As per company rules -
Service Reference Letter cannot be given , I found
this thread as answer to most of my questions
and I have convinced my Manager to get me a
SD ...however I am still marred and intrigued with
some doubts for which I seek guidance..
1. Self SD where I say that its against company
policy to give reference letters on letter head , is it
mandatory to mention duties performed by
me ??? My manager is going to enlist the same in
his SD anyways ??
2. Is it mandatory to have SD on a stamp
paper ?? I know its advisable however my doubt
stands at is it mandatory to have SD on a stamp
paper!
3. 5 duties have been listed by my manager on
SD of 29 performed by me and 7 I have
mentioned in my CV , here I have 2 questions is it
mandatory to submit CV whilst getting an
assessment from VETASSESS and if yes how imp
are references as advised by VETASSESS
website??
4. I have read Document 6 , 1119.pdf and
nowhere its mentioned that DIAC will accept
statutory declaration , however the same are
being accepted which is a ground reality ..
requesting to please guide me if there is any link
which leads to confirm that DIAC will accept
statutory declarations in lieu of SD.
5. If I were to apply today for assessment then I
will be assessed for 7 years and 10 months and
whilst applying I will have more than 8 years
experience as on date of EOI , what chances do I
stand to get the whole experience eligible for work
experience points ?? As I am thinking for 190 SA , I
am also thinking if I were to under claim the
points i.e less than 8 years still I will sail through
and if due to my bad luck DIAC / CO is not in
good mood they can very well deny me a visa
stating how can you train someone when you
have just joined organisation!!??? hence I am
thinking of under claiming to negate chances of
CO telling me I am being rejected for over claim of
points !!!
6. God forbids and if VETASSESS & or DIAC says
my experience is not relevant and then I reapply
to VETASSESS as a Branch Manager for financial
institution again with a SD from my Manager
wont VETASSESS get mad and seek clarifications
for giving multiple SD for multiple profiles from
same person by same manager ????
Requesting to please guide ..
Thanks in advance


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Hi Dpklogin -

Thanks for the note. It's not possible for me to answer all of your questions via forum as there are many details I would need to know and study about your specific case in order to give you quality advice.

Generally speaking, the Statutory Declaration (SD) option is most effective with those skills assessors that allow this (including VETASSESS) in situations where the skills assessor can be convinced that it is actually not possible to get an employer reference letter from a current or past employer. DIAC has no published guidelines on using a SD instead of an employer reference letter, however DIAC also gives a lot of weight to VETASSESS's opinion - in other words, if VETASSESS is satisfied that any particular employment is both genuine and highly relevant to your nominated occupation, that reduces the chances that DIAC would require further documentation beyond what you have already provided to VETASSESS.

Re: Changing occupations - VETASSESS may suggest that you change your occupation either during assessment or after receiving a negative assessment - this generally is not a problem, but you should consult with them for specifics.

Re: # of years of experience more on EOI than on skills assessment, this is normal if your yearly anniversary happens after your skills assessment but before you lodge the EOI and puts you into a new points level for work experience. Normally not a problem, but the worst that can happen is that the case officer asks you to get points test advice letter from VETASSESS for the segment of work you are claiming that happened after the skills assessment was issued.

Hope this helps - if you want a detailed assessment of your situation along with detailed advice on how you can best get through the process, don't hesitate to book a professional consultation - see the website link in my signature.

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Hi Dpklogin -

Thanks for the note. It's not possible for me to answer all of your questions via forum as there are many details I would need to know and study about your specific case in order to give you quality advice.

Generally speaking, the Statutory Declaration (SD) option is most effective with those skills assessors that allow this (including VETASSESS) in situations where the skills assessor can be convinced that it is actually not possible to get an employer reference letter from a current or past employer. DIAC has no published guidelines on using a SD instead of an employer reference letter, however DIAC also gives a lot of weight to VETASSESS's opinion - in other words, if VETASSESS is satisfied that any particular employment is both genuine and highly relevant to your nominated occupation, that reduces the chances that DIAC would require further documentation beyond what you have already provided to VETASSESS.

Re: Changing occupations - VETASSESS may suggest that you change your occupation either during assessment or after receiving a negative assessment - this generally is not a problem, but you should consult with them for specifics.

Re: # of years of experience more on EOI than on skills assessment, this is normal if your yearly anniversary happens after your skills assessment but before you lodge the EOI and puts you into a new points level for work experience. Normally not a problem, but the worst that can happen is that the case officer asks you to get points test advice letter from VETASSESS for the segment of work you are claiming that happened after the skills assessment was issued.

Hope this helps - if you want a detailed assessment of your situation along with detailed advice on how you can best get through the process, don't hesitate to book a professional consultation - see the website link in my signature.

Best,

Mark Northam
Dear Mark,

I appreciate your help..

I am glad such a senior person takes out time and replies to queries in forum.

Thanks again for your support.

Regards

Deepak


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You're welcome, Deepak - good luck with the visa process!

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You're welcome, Deepak - good luck with the visa process!

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Hello Sir,

I am from India and I have few issues for getting documents for my 190 application...

Want your help.... I have been working since 6.5 years with same employer having duties of a hr adviser, however my company doesn't give reference letters.. I have salary slips and I have read in this post that statutory declaration can help in this case.

Pls enlighten me on this... If I were to give statutory declaration will Vetassess and DIAC accept the same?

And can there be a situation where vetassess says yes I am skilled and educated to get points but DIAC Says no to it?? Hypothetically speaking for the same statutory declaration which has been submitted by me what if VETASSESS says yes then can DIAC insist on employer's reference letters because I won't be able to get those ever..

Please guide..

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Hello Sir,

I am from India and I have few issues for getting documents for my 190 application...

Want your help.... I have been working since 6.5 years with same employer having duties of a hr adviser, however my company doesn't give reference letters.. I have salary slips and I have read in this post that statutory declaration can help in this case.

Pls enlighten me on this... If I were to give statutory declaration will Vetassess and DIAC accept the same?

And can there be a situation where vetassess says yes I am skilled and educated to get points but DIAC Says no to it?? Hypothetically speaking for the same statutory declaration which has been submitted by me what if VETASSESS says yes then can DIAC insist on employer's reference letters because I won't be able to get those ever..

Please guide..

Regards

KHYATI
And is it mandatory to get statutory declaration for my boss... Statutory Declaration only submitted by me will not be deemed of any help irrespective of the fact that In have my appointment letter and salary slips!??


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