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Old 08-23-2013, 03:29 AM
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Hi Happy75 -

It's not a matter of legal or not, as an EOI lodgement is not a visa application - it's more like posting your resume online. There is little benefit to lodging a 189 EOI with 55 points, since invitations are issued without any notice and you would have to have at least 60 points at the time of invitation. I suppose you could put an EOI like that in if you wanted to and the system allowed it, and you could update it later if you wanted to, but whether is is allowed comes down to whether the DIAC system will let you do it or not. The magic moment is the date of invitation - if you do not have sufficient points at that point, or cannot provide evidence to prove you have the points you claim you have, then it's unlikely that the subsequent visa application will be approved. Where this really gets expensive is when an applicant realises they don't have the proper points (or evidence such as proper work reference letters, etc) after the invitation has been received and the application has been lodged (and $3,060 paid). The applicant is left with 2 choices: withdraw the application, or get a refusal - neither of these options provide refunds!

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Hello Mark,

Can we expect any updates from NSW by next week...otherwise we have to wait for long time regarding pipeline applications....


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Hi Jayantsit -

Your guess is as good as mine. They're keeping agents in the dark about the specifics of this just like everyone else. Wish I had something better to report here.

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Hi Jayantsit -

Your guess is as good as mine. They're keeping agents in the dark about the specifics of this just like everyone else. Wish I had something better to report here.

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Hello Mark,

This is just my prediction... the only option left for states... if they want to process all the pipeline applications...they have to add 5 points to the pipeline applications and pull all the applications to the pool ...no other options are visible to give perfect justice to the pipeline applications...hoping for the positive result... please provide new updates from NSW or DIAC.

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Problem is, the states cannot "add points" other than through nomination, and nomination has been halted. Perhaps DIAC will allow nominations without an invitation, as you suggest - that would certainly be one solution, but we then get into legal issues where DIAC is constrained by the legislation as to what they can and cannot do. State sponsorship authorities have fewer regulations restricting what they do. However, if there are already "too many" people with 60 points in the 189 pool for the number of places left, adding more people with 60 points from the previous state sponsorship pool doesn't give those people much of a chance. Based on the language for the last update, I expect DIAC is going to establish a higher cutoff point (maybe 65 or 70 points?) for those occupations and only provide invitations to people who achieve those points. If that happens, 55 points plus a gift of 5 points from the state for those pipeline 190 applications won't help those applications at all, unless the applicants then go get higher IELTS, etc to boost their score. At least if the states give the 5 points those applicants are still "in the game", but I'll bet they'll have to get higher than 60 points to have any real chance of getting one of those few places remaining. The 5-point state "gift" also lets the states avoid refunding application fees!

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Problem is, the states cannot "add points" other than through nomination, and nomination has been halted. Perhaps DIAC will allow nominations without an invitation, as you suggest - that would certainly be one solution, but we then get into legal issues where DIAC is constrained by the legislation as to what they can and cannot do. State sponsorship authorities have fewer regulations restricting what they do. However, if there are already "too many" people with 60 points in the 189 pool for the number of places left, adding more people with 60 points from the previous state sponsorship pool doesn't give those people much of a chance. Based on the language for the last update, I expect DIAC is going to establish a higher cutoff point (maybe 65 or 70 points?) for those occupations and only provide invitations to people who achieve those points. If that happens, 55 points plus a gift of 5 points from the state for those pipeline 190 applications won't help those applications at all, unless the applicants then go get higher IELTS, etc to boost their score. At least if the states give the 5 points those applicants are still "in the game", but I'll bet they'll have to get higher than 60 points to have any real chance of getting one of those few places remaining. The 5-point state "gift" also lets the states avoid refunding application fees!

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So if DIAC establish higher cut off then 189 pool applicants who have 60 points also suffer...even onshore applicants will lose hope on DIAC system and policies ... it will impact a more if they establish new points system for the suspended occupation list...


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I agree, Jayantsit. They hinted at "new cutoff points scores" regarding how they were going to issue invitations for the few remaining places for the 6 occupation groups, but we have no definite data yet. What might happen is that all the 190 applicants who didn't get an invitation for the 190 may be dumped into the same pool with the 189 applicants for that application, then the highest points test scores win. But hard to say at this point, we only have bits and pieces of information, certainly nothing definite that one could plan on.

Also, don't forget that the labor unions in Australia are spending a great deal of money in publicity, etc trying to make the case that there are too many foreign workers in Australia, and that the 457 system is being taken advantage of while Australian tradespeople go without jobs. To be blunt, given the current Labor government who is beholden to the unions, the government has every reason to make things hard for foreign workers and reduce the number of employment/work visas issued, as that makes their union masters happy.

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I received Vic SS rejection today for Software Tester job code. I thought the SS were on hold for now. Not sure if someone else have received the same. Please let me know? I had 70 points including State nomination


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Hi Koolgoose -

What specific reason(s) were given for the refusal?

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Nothing specific but a generic email that your profile was reviewed individually and we regret to inform that not able to nominate etc....
I think this is the standard template that they send out when they are refusing.


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