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Old 11-16-2017, 09:47 PM
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Good to have another opinion on the plausibility of tourist visa to BVA, thanks for the advise.

Based on other answers and information I have found through the forum, I guess that when the BVA kicks in after the 600, the applicant will have right to study and work until a decision is made on the 820?
Yes. I've found often the first source of information should be DIBP publications on the matter, then the forum as a tool to understand them.

It is explained very clearly on the website under the 820/801 visa page.

"Partner visa (subclasses 820 and 801)

If your current visa expires

If your current visa ends before you are granted the temporary partner visa, you can stay in Australia on a Bridging visa A (BVA). You do not have to apply for a BVA; it is automatically granted when you apply for your partner visa. The BVA starts when your temporary visa ends.

The BVA does not let you travel out of Australia and return. If you want to travel out of Australia and return, apply for a Bridging visa B (BVB).
BVAs and BVBs that are granted to applicants for this visa allow you to:

work in Australia

study in Australia (no government support)

enrol in Medicare, Australia’s health care scheme."

Source: https://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-...#tab-content-1


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It is not a loophole. There are 2 different systems at play here. One is the stay period of the tourist visa and the other one is what happens when you validly apply for a visa in Australia that can be granted in Australia and which will result in you being granted a bridging visa.

The concern ,when it comes to partner visas, is that possibly next year the sponsorship must be approved first, before the visa application can be lodged. This could be problematic for someone on a tourist visa with a 3 month stay period. What if the sponsorship has not been approved within those 3 months? Without a validly lodged visa application, there would be no bridging visa.
Yes, the 2 different systems are now clear, thanks.

Just so we are on the same page about what you mention as the 'sponsorship', are you referring to the completion of 'form 40SP'?


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Not as it is in current form. He is referring to a change that will require sponsors to apply first, be approved, and then an applicant can apply for a partner visa.


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Not as it is in current form. He is referring to a change that will require sponsors to apply first, be approved, and then an applicant can apply for a partner visa.
Oh, I am with you now, understood! Thanks for the advice!


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You can read it for yourself on the BVA grant letter.

And a lot of people DO take that path. It now can take 1-2 years or longer for an 820 grant.

There are also changes in immigration approaching that appear to be trying to limit such onshore applications. No exact word yet what they'll be but knowing immigration, the day you find out will be the day it begins.
Sorry, another question. You mentioned that many people do in fact take the path of tourist visa and apply onshore for an 820 visa. Included in the 600 visa application should be either an itinerary or reserved flight details to show intention to return home after the stay. Stating this information to obtain the visa and then applying for the 820 onshore should not impact the 820 application, should it?


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Sorry, another question. You mentioned that many people do in fact take the path of tourist visa and apply onshore for an 820 visa. Included in the 600 visa application should be either an itinerary or reserved flight details to show intention to return home after the stay. Stating this information to obtain the visa and then applying for the 820 onshore should not impact the 820 application, should it?
If immi didn't want people to apply for an onshore partner visa from a tourist visa, they wouldn't allow it to happen. One way they'll prevent it is with a NFS condition if they suspect it. But if you don't have a NFS condition, then there's nothing stopping you from applying.

The issue is you must enter on a tourist visa as a genuine tourist, not someone intending to use it to get another onshore visa. Many people come to Oz on long holidays to visit their partners only to decide after being here that they'd like to stay. That is when they decide to apply for a partner visa.

You also don't need to have flights booked. Most likely you won't even be asked to show it. If you are, showing you have sufficient funds to purchase a flight out of Australia should be enough. But of course, you can book a flight anyway if you feel more comfortable that way.

For the 600, you can look up what people use. Often it's a statement from an employer, a lease or mortgage in home country, etc. I think it really comes down to which country the 600 applicant is coming from and if immi thinks they're high risk then they'll want to see harder proof of ties to home country.


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