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Old 08-22-2013, 02:53 PM
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Prospective Marriage Visa to Partner Visa

Hello all!

Am new to the forum and would really need some advise with regards to Partner Visa application. Really appreciate any input, especially from those who have gone through it before

I'm from Singapore, am currently in Australia under the Prospective Marriage Visa and will be soon applying for a Partner Visa whilst in Australia after I get married.

I applied for the Prospective Marriage Visa back in Singapore with the Embassy over there.

My queries are
1. Can I use my previous health checks (I read they are valid for a year) in the partner application? I did the health check in Singapore for the PMV and these were sent to the Australian Embassy online. Can I assume that the DIAC would still have my records? Or do I need to visit a medibank office for another health check here in Australia?

2. For the Police checks, Can I use the Singapore provided police check that I obtained for PMV? Or do I need to reapply for a police check here in Australia?

3. My Sponsor (soon to be wife) needs to prove again that she has the financial means to support me. However, we are about to settle on an apartment which would put us under a mortgage and also reduce her bank account by a lot. As such, besides her job, what other evidence can we provide?

4. I still have my old form 47sp and 40sp plus my form 888s. Can I use the same persons to write again the form 888s as per what they did for the PMV or do I need to find different persons?

5. any other things that I need to take note while applying for the partner Visa from a prospective marriage visa?

Thanks so much!

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Hi Kelvin! Welcome to the forum.

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My queries are
1. Can I use my previous health checks (I read they are valid for a year) in the partner application? I did the health check in Singapore for the PMV and these were sent to the Australian Embassy online. Can I assume that the DIAC would still have my records? Or do I need to visit a medibank office for another health check here in Australia?

2. For the Police checks, Can I use the Singapore provided police check that I obtained for PMV? Or do I need to reapply for a police check here in Australia?
For both health and police checks, generally DIAC will not make you redo them if you are still valid. I'd suggest submitting your application without them and waiting to see if they ask for them (and they likely won't).

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3. My Sponsor (soon to be wife) needs to prove again that she has the financial means to support me. However, we are about to settle on an apartment which would put us under a mortgage and also reduce her bank account by a lot. As such, besides her job, what other evidence can we provide?
There's no requirement to have any sort of minimum bank balance. Her job is enough. In fact, if both of your names are going to be on that mortgage, that will be great evidence.

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4. I still have my old form 47sp and 40sp plus my form 888s. Can I use the same persons to write again the form 888s as per what they did for the PMV or do I need to find different persons?
You will need new Forms 888 (thought it sounds like you know that), but yes, you can absolutely use the same people.

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5. any other things that I need to take note while applying for the partner Visa from a prospective marriage visa?
Yes. You'll want to provide the same evidence you provided for your PMV, plus evidence that you've married: a certified copy of your marriage certificate, photos of the wedding, cards you got from people congratulating you, etc. Also evidence that you've combined your finances, set up house together, etc.

When I get to this stage, I personally am going to separate it into two sections - "Provided for PMV (300)" and "New Evidence." I think this will make their lives easier.

Essentially what they're doing is briefly looking back through the evidence you've already provided for the PMV to make sure they agree with your previous CO that your relationship is legitimate. This is kind of a "rubber stamp" situation and doesn't take long. Then, they look at your new evidence to confirm that you've gotten married, that you've set up house in Australia together, combined your finances, etc.

Generally 820s applied for from PMVs take only a matter of days or a few weeks to grant.

Good luck, and congrats on the marriage!

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Old 08-23-2013, 04:05 AM
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Hi College Girl

Thanks for your very helpful and prompt reply!

What a change from the stern and unhelpful replies when I call the DIAC

I was getting a little worried as I could not find any advise of applying for the Partner Visa from the PMV.

Will take in all that you've said and, yes, will give an update and hopefully, good news in a couple of months!

Oh one last thing, how do you advise that i should send in my completed application? In Person or through mail? Also, how do I make payment if I do not send it by person at their office?

Thanks!
Kelvin

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Old 08-23-2013, 04:19 AM
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Well your first question just got easier - our resident migration agent here Mark Northam just advised that DIAC has said they are no longer allowing in-person partner visa applications at all. If you go in to try to hand one in, apparently they will not accept it and will tell you to just post it. Soooo, that answers that.

Payment I'm not as familiar with because my fiance and our migration agent took care of that (bless them!!!) - how did you pay for the PMV? Isn't there a form on the application or something? The 820 is the exact same forms as the PMV (47SP, 40SP, etc.) so the way to pay it would be the same, I'd think.

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Old 08-23-2013, 04:27 AM
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Okay, did a bit of looking at the 47SP Form -

Page 2:
Quote:
Method of payment
In Australia
To make a payment, please pay by credit card, debit card, bank
cheque or money order made payable to the Department of
Immigration and Citizenship. Debit card and credit card are
the preferred methods of payment.
Part M, Page 21:

Question 83 asks "Has the Visa Application Charge already been paid?" If you tick no, it sends you to Question 84 on the next page, which has a worksheet for you to use to calculate your application fee.

Then Question 85 has a place for you to fill in credit card info to pay, but it also says there that you can use bank cheque or money order if you prefer.

Also, keep in mind that as you're applying for the 820 from the PMV, the application charge is less. Currently, it's $995, but fees go up September 1. You can use this page on DIAC's website when you're ready to fill this section out to make sure you have the right amount on there. You're looking for "Partner (Subclass 820/801) visa application by Prospective Marriage (Subclass 300) visa holder." Hope that helps.

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Hi CollegeGirl

Thanks for the advise =)

I know this sounds Silly but how do I pay using credit card? Do I just fill in form 47SP page 85 with my credit card details, as per you've mentioned and then the department will just charge it to the credit card?

I also just realised they changed their forms since the last i applied in March for the PMV

How long did you have to wait for the approval of the temporary partner visa after you've applied it? Did you also apply via a PMV to a partner Visa?

Thanks!

Kelvin


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Oh, with regards to the payment for the PMV, I went in person to the embassy in Singapore and paid as I was submitting the documents


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Hi CollegeGirl

Thanks for the advise =)

I know this sounds Silly but how do I pay using credit card? Do I just fill in form 47SP page 85 with my credit card details, as per you've mentioned and then the department will just charge it to the credit card?

I also just realised they changed their forms since the last i applied in March for the PMV

How long did you have to wait for the approval of the temporary partner visa after you've applied it? Did you also apply via a PMV to a partner Visa?

Thanks!

Kelvin
Yes - well-noticed! They do make changes to the forms in April, July, and November. You need to use the most current form when you apply, of course.

Yes, that's how it works - you fill in your CC details on the form and they charge it.

I personally am still waiting on the approval for my PMV! So I can't tell you how long I personally waited, as it hasn't happened yet. But what I said about PMV to 820 applications taking no more than around 2 weeks in general comes from watching many other folks here talk about how long theirs took. I've been hanging out on this forum since late 2012, so I've read a fair bit.

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Hey College girl

Sorries on the late reply, been busy running around trying to settle wedding stuff (its coming soon!! Boy am i nervous...). Finally found some time to think about my Visa.

I hope you get your PMV soon! The feeling of knowing that you're finally gonna be in the same place with your loved one (even though its only for an initial 9 months) is quite something.

Do you know how those who have successfully gotten their 820 through the PMV route, wrote their statement regarding their history of the relationship? Wouldn't it be almost the same as what they had written for the PMV?

Thanks!

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Old 08-29-2013, 04:35 AM
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I mean, I wouldn't just copy and paste it, but yes, you're telling basically the same story plus information on your wedding, how you've combined households/finances, how you split household duties, etc.

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Visa #1: PMV (300) through Washington, D.C
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Visa Granted: January 2014.
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Visa Granted: Early July 2014.
Visa #3: 801 (PR)
Eligibility Date: End of April 2016 (Applied a month prior).
PR Granted: Early April 2017.

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