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Partner Visa changes as at 18 Nov 2017

The MIA has received confirmation from the Department of changes to Partner (SC 309/100 & 820/801) and Prospective Marriage (SC 300) visa application arrangements mooted at the MIA National Conference.

On or after 18 November 2017 the following changes will occur to Partner and Prospective Marriage Visa (PMV) application arrangements:

• Partner and PMV visas must be lodged online.

• Paper applications received after COB on 17 November 2017 at any office of the Department, Service Delivery Partner, overseas embassy or High Commission will be invalid.

The following policy will be applied to applications lodged before and after 18 November 2017 and not finally decided:

• Undocumented or poorly documented applications lodged by RMAs, eg applicatons that only meet the basic Schedule 1 requirements for lodging a valid application, may be refused without notice and without requests for further information.

• Where natural justice letters have been sent to RMAs, no follow up or subsequent reminders will be sent. The Department will decide the application on the information before it, unless an extension of time has been requested and granted.

For applications lodged prior to 18 November 2017, the Department will provide only ONE opportunity to submit additional information and/or documents or respond to a natural justice letter.

These measures have been implemented by the Department because of the high level of incomplete and undocumented applications lodged and are aimed at freeing Departmental resources to address the second stage processing backlog.

The Department has also indicated that it will prioritise well documented and low risk applications in 2017 - 2018. AAT applications will also be remitted to one central office to speed up processing.

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The Department has also indicated that it will prioritise well documented and low risk applications in 2017 - 2018.

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The Department has also indicated that it will prioritise well documented and low risk applications in 2017 - 2018.
Sounds like discrimination if you ask me!

Just because someone is from a high risk country they will suffer.

Personally I think it should be ALL well documented applications no matter if they are low risk or high risk should be prioritised (if they want to prioritise applications).

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I read it that well documented applications will get priority

also so will low risk.


* We have all seen the vast differences in what gets presented and how it is presented. I have seen here some that ask for a review of what they plan to submit and it is clear they have spent months researching and gathering, then others ask a review of what they have submitted and it is not even a valid application.

* I think the RMA's should get cut some slack too and get some priority in the quota allocation.


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I read it that way as well initially, but you could take it either way really as they had AND, they really should have OR if they wanted it to show well documented applications from high risk countries.

Low document low risk applicants will get priority over low document high risk applicants. That doesn't seem fair if you ask me. Just because someone is from a low risk country does not mean that they are a lower risk.

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I see where you're coming from, Mish, but as you know they do certain types of external checks on applicants from high risk countries which they have little to no control over and can't speed up, so I can see why they can't expedite those. It does suck, though, and feel really unfair.

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I see where you're coming from, Mish, but as you know they do certain types of external checks on applicants from high risk countries which they have little to no control over and can't speed up, so I can see why they can't expedite those. It does suck, though, and feel really unfair.
I am talking about the ones that are considered high risk but don't undergo those checks and there are a lot of those. For example citizens of South Africa has one of the lowest processing times (some only 6 weeks) and they are classed as a high risk country.

I could understand if it was from countries like Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, Syria etc which are all very high risk countries and their security checks forever.

Then you also go to the 801/100 where the security checks are already done so for them they don't even come into play.

All I can say is that I am glad that we are dealing with it anymore, but I do have friends that are, and I really feel for them.

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I am talking about the ones that are considered high risk but don't undergo those checks and there are a lot of those. For example citizens of South Africa has one of the lowest processing times (some only 6 weeks) and they are classed as a high risk country.

I could understand if it was from countries like Iraq, Yemen, Afghanistan, Syria etc which are all very high risk countries and their security checks forever.

Then you also go to the 801/100 where the security checks are already done so for them they don't even come into play.

All I can say is that I am glad that we are dealing with it anymore, but I do have friends that are, and I really feel for them.
There is a lot of checking behind the scenes that you are not privy to. The security checking handbook lists requirements for each country and the thing is the access that Australia has to other countries intelligence also has a lot to do with it. For example in the "five eyes" group, it's relatively easier to obtain intelligence about an applicant than from many other countries. Also applications can trigger a "safeguards alert", which subjects them to even more delays.

Here's a quick excerpt that might give you a better understanding of what exactly is assessed in making the overall determination for scrutinization of applicants.

BBordernet Briefly, however, the methods and procedures vary according to the applicant's:

  • age
  • ethnicity
  • current nationality and country of residence
  • country (or countries) of previous residence
  • proposed purpose and duration of stay in Australia
  • own statements and
  • other relevant information.
  • One or more of the above factors may be used in assessing the security requirement.


Form 80 (Personal particulars for character assessment) provides information that, under policy, may be relevant in assessing the security requirement, depending on the security checking that is required for that applicant. If appropriate (having regard to the Security Checking Handbook), officers may ask visa applicants to complete a form 80 – see regulation 2.03AA.



-- and yes ethnicity is actually a factor unfortunately. It's just the reality of the situation.


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Barker, are you a migration agent?

Yes DIBP are exempt from discrimination laws it seems.

It is also amazing what they and members of parliament say but will not put in writing.

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I read it that way as well initially, but you could take it either way really as they had AND, they really should have OR if they wanted it to show well documented applications from high risk countries.

Low document low risk applicants will get priority over low document high risk applicants. That doesn't seem fair if you ask me. Just because someone is from a low risk country does not mean that they are a lower risk.
Nothing about the visa process is fair and why should it be? Why does a skilled indipendant get instant pr, why do some visas take 30 years. Why are there only X places for Each different visa.

They are following a logical route. A low priority application is going to be the easiest one to assess and complete - lowering the queue size and meeting Immis goals.

Not that I agree with most of the things they do, it is a logical route. I wonder what the high and low risk split is.


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