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Old 11-20-2017, 03:48 PM
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ETA and 3-year Ban Question

Hi all,

I have a 3 year ban for overstaying last year. After renewing my passport this summer, I received a new passport with a new number.

From a pure technical standpoint, will they be able to tie my old passport to the new one, and as a result, deny my ETA if I applied again with the new passport?


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I'm not an expert on this, but I think it's possible the ETA would be granted, however if you tried to actually enter the country on said ETA it would more than likely get picked up at the border and your 3 year ban will be restarted again, from the date you attempt to enter.

I saw an episode of Border Security Australia recently where someone from Korea who had a 3 year ban changed his name and got a new passport in his new name (therefore passport number and name were both different), tried to enter and got stopped at the border because they picked up he was trying to get around the 3 year ban. He had his visa cancelled and sent back to Korea.

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I'm not an expert on this, but I think it's possible the ETA would be granted, however if you tried to actually enter the country on said ETA it would more than likely get picked up at the border and your 3 year ban will be restarted again, from the date you attempt to enter.

I saw an episode of Border Security Australia recently where someone from Korea who had a 3 year ban changed his name and got a new passport in his new name (therefore passport number and name were both different), tried to enter and got stopped at the border because they picked up he was trying to get around the 3 year ban. He had his visa cancelled and sent back to Korea.
Thanks for the response. This is actually very interesting. I wonder how they found that out, but it's probably likely that they verified the passport holder's history with the Korean authorities maybe?

Do you happen to know where I can find that video of said episode?


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Hi all,

I have a 3 year ban for overstaying last year. After renewing my passport this summer, I received a new passport with a new number.

From a pure technical standpoint, will they be able to tie my old passport to the new one, and as a result, deny my ETA if I applied again with the new passport?
Don’t even think about it. They can now pick up people with fake driving licences and the like through facial recognition.

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I am definitely no expert on this subject, but this seems incredibly risky and the outcome of success very dim.

Border and immigration have advanced technology to pick up stuff like this, and linking an old passport to a new one would be electronically very simple, and a walk in the park for them.


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Not all visa applications are affected by such bans.
Note the previous advice!

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Not all visa applications are affected by such bans.
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Oh I didn't know that. So since this was a visa via ETA, it's a subclass 601 visa. Does that mean that the 3 year ban doesn't apply to the subclass 600 visa?


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Pretty sure the only visas that the 3 year ban is not affected by is partner visas.


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Thanks for the response. This is actually very interesting. I wonder how they found that out, but it's probably likely that they verified the passport holder's history with the Korean authorities maybe?

Do you happen to know where I can find that video of said episode?
They actually had a photo of him that they showed to him and said "is this you?" Which he initially tried to deny. So facial recognition seems plausible. If you have Netflix it is episode 17 (there's only one season there at the moment) - and he was actually Malaysian not Korean. As everyone else said - it's extremely risky and I wouldn't even be considering it if I were you.

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Yes, partner visa is the only one that I know of that would qualify to have 3 year ban waived.

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