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Migrate while pregnant or wait till after birth?


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Old 12-04-2017, 11:34 AM
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Migrate while pregnant or wait till after birth?

Hi!

I'm currently waiting for the approval of my partner visa 309 offshore and might be pregnant. If not your answers would still help as we'd keep on trying for a second baby.

In other threads I've read about the cost of giving birth in Australia (without having Medicare) vs offshore before migrating and about eligibility for parental leave and childcare money while in Australia but without a PR.

My conclusion would be that it's better to wait and give birth in Germany, coz I'm fully covered here. And then migrate when the bub is about 2-3 months old.

My questions:
- Would I have to file a change in circumstances and tell them I'm pregnant as soon as I'm past the 12 week "all or nothing" period?
- Would the baby be included in my application as a dependent child even if yet unborn at that time? And granted a visa with me?
- Or do I have to apply for citizenship by descent as soon as it is born?
- Does the baby also need a passport to enter Australia or would the visa/citizenship be sufficient at that age?
- What would be faster/easier/cheaper?

Thanks in advance!


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Old 12-04-2017, 12:17 PM
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If you are in Australia on a valid visa, you are entitled to Medicare. That is a fact but some Medicare staff don't know it so it can take a bit of effort.

But 100% true.


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If you are in Australia on a valid visa, you are entitled to Medicare. That is a fact but some Medicare staff don't know it so it can take a bit of effort.

But 100% true.
Got a link to this? As I'm pretty sure not all visas come with full Medicare rights.


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Old 12-04-2017, 01:38 PM
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The 309 does, have posted a few times.

Not all visas have Medicare rights.

The OP stated it was a 309 application.


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Would you have any knowledge about if it's ok to enter Australia while pregnant? Because of the costs I would cause without having earned money and paid taxes yet...


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Thank you for contacting the Australian Government Department of Human Services (DHS).



If a person has applied for a 309 visa and the Department of Immigration and Border Protection (DIBP) has acknowledged it as a valid application, the person can apply for Medicare benefits.



Information about our services can be found by visiting our website at humanservices.gov.au.





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This was the email sent to Medicare:-

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Dear Medicare,

I (Australian Citizen) have been given conflicting information about my wife's eligibility of Medicare when she will arrive in Australia next month. So can you please confirm for me her eligibility, I have included relevant information from both Medicare and Immigration Department below.

* My wife applied for Partner Visa from Ukraine on 3 April 2016, this is a Permanent Visa application (2,7, below). This visa currently has around a 12 month processing time.

* We applied for a 12 month Visitor Visa (3 below) this was granted last week, and my wife will arrive in Australia and stay on the Visitor Visa until the Partner Visa is decided.

Both the Onshore and Offshore Partner Visas (309 & 820 below state) " enrol in Medicare, Australia's scheme for health-related care and expenses"

We know that people in Australia on a Visitor Visa can apply for a 820 Partner Visa and get Medicare waiting on a decision on the Partner Visa because of (2,7,8,10,11 &19 below).

So my wife will be in Australia on a valid Visitor Visa having applied a permanent visa too.
We have the following below - 309 Partner Visa applied (2,3,7,8,9,10,11,12& 13).

Can you please confirm my wife while in Australia living with me on a Visitor Visa, waiting for our Partner Visa is eligible for a interim (blue) Medicare card.

Thankyou

Aaron



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From Medicare application form
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When to use this form
Use this form if you are:
(1) a migrant living in Australia
** (2) applying for permanent residency and living in Australia
** (3) a visitor to Australia
(4) an Australian citizen returning to live in Australia
(5) a New Zealand citizen living in Australia, or
(6) a permanent resident visa holder (previously enrolled) returning to live in Australia.
Applying for permanent residency
** (7) People who have applied for a permanent resident visa (except for a parent visa) may be eligible for the Medicare and Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme programs if they have a visa authorising their stay in Australia and:
have permission to work, or
** (8) their parent, spouse or child is an Australian citizen or holds an Australian permanent resident visa.

Documents required
(9) current passport or travel document for each person being enrolled
(10) valid visa or original visa grant letter for each person being enrolled
(11) where the applicants do not have permission to work, it is necessary to provide proof of their relationship with a spouse, parent or child who is an Australian citizen or an Australian permanent resident visa holder.
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Immigration Department information
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The Partner (Provisional) visa (subclass 309) lets you:
(12) enter Australia and stay here until a decision is made about your permanent Partner visa
(13) work in Australia
(14) study in Australia, but with no access to government funding
(15) enrol in Medicare, Australia's scheme for health-related care and expenses
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The temporary Partner visa (subclass 820) lets you:
(16) stay in Australia until a decision is made about your permanent Partner visa
(17) work in Australia
(18) study in Australia, but with no access to government funding
(19) enrol in Medicare, Australia's scheme for health-related care and expenses

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Old 12-04-2017, 11:11 PM
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It says on the medicare website that applicants of both the 309/100 and 820/801 are eligible for medicare if they are currently in Australia on a valid visa.

Source: https://www.humanservices.gov.au/ind...ol-medicare#a3

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Old 12-05-2017, 06:50 AM
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Yes can confirm a 309 has full Medicare rights. We did ours a few hours from landing but lucky we got a staff member who knew what she was doing.

We printed out a copy of the VEVO form and she did some checks and 10 mins later we had a temp card in our hands.

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