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Old 09-01-2013, 06:09 AM
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Am i leaving to late

I have to apply for the second stage of my visa PMVthe 9 month period is up on october 15th We got married after 1 month of entering Australia back in Feb. Is there a ruling on the time you have to apply or am i still ok for a couple of weeks ( have to compile all the info again ).

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Old 09-01-2013, 07:18 AM
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I don't have answer to that but I'm submitting mine a month prior. Are u resubmitting all ur old info or a selection if it or just new stuff since visa issued? Also did u do new police report from home country? Thanks Louise

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Old 09-01-2013, 07:22 AM
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Chicken - You provide the evidence from the PMV plus updated stuff (evidence of the marriage, new Forms 888, etc.) I wouldn't do police checks or medicals unless they ask.

Louise - as long as you apply before your PMV expires you're fine.

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Old 09-01-2013, 10:55 AM
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Thanks cg but all 7.5kg from the pmv or do u think I'm safe to cut it back to normal levels this time ?

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You provide the evidence from the PMV plus updated stuff (evidence of the marriage, new Forms 888, etc.)
Hey louiseb, I am not really so sure about CollegeGirl's comment. I almost always agree with what she has to say, but to be honest when I got to the 820/801 stage after getting married, you really don't need to include much of the same evidence that you included with the offshore PMV.

They are two totally different visas. I remember with my wife's PMV, we included phone, skype, facebook, plane tickets, etc etc but when we submitted the 820/801 we really just included updated statements, photos from the wedding, Australian phone and utility bills to show we lived in the same house and still called each other (haha), as well as new statements on form 888's from family and friends and other bits and pieces like greeting cards and invitations to other peoples housewarming parties/weddings etc.

It's not really as simple as just using the same evidence that you used for your PMV and then updating it a bit - it's a totally different application and therefore you need new evidence, not just the old stuff that DIAC already have on file.

Don't mean to shoot you down or be rude CG, but it is quite different and I hope you can understand so that it's easier for you once you get here also!

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Louise - as long as you apply before your PMV expires you're fine.
This! That's what bridging visas are for You'll be on one of those until your application has a decision.

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Old 09-01-2013, 07:17 PM
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I think we agree more than you think on this, and perhaps what I said just wasn't detailed enough to make it clear what i was getting across, Bonez.

You do need to provide a lot of the same evidence you provided for your PMV. (This is per one of Mark Northam's posts). We've had a whole discussion on a previous thread about this topic - I think it's really silly that you have to provide most of the same evidence that you provided for the PMV. They've already seen it, why do they need to see it again? But unfortunately they do. I plan to go through all our PMV evidence and pull out *select* items (the most important ones) that demonstrate the genuineness of our relationship, etc. I plan to clip all the "old stuff" together with a note on front saying "evidence we provided for our PMV," and then include the new evidence in a section that says "New evidence for our 820."

And as far as the new evidence, yes, you need evidence that you've married (cert. copy of marriage cert., photos from the wedding, invites, cards, etc.) You need evidence that you've combined households and finances. Basically all the new evidence since your PMV application.

I'm glad that not including the old stuff worked for you, but if an RMA says "include your old stuff too" I'm going to do it, personally, lol. Better safe than sorry!

The reason I just said "updated evidence, etc." is because Chicken has been around here so long I figured she'd seen me say it a million times and I didn't need to detail all of it -- but thanks for saying what you did, because it's better to explain where it isn't needed than to NOT explain where it is needed.


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Hey louiseb, I am not really so sure about CollegeGirl's comment. I almost always agree with what she has to say, but to be honest when I got to the 820/801 stage after getting married, you really don't need to include much of the same evidence that you included with the offshore PMV.

They are two totally different visas. I remember with my wife's PMV, we included phone, skype, facebook, plane tickets, etc etc but when we submitted the 820/801 we really just included updated statements, photos from the wedding, Australian phone and utility bills to show we lived in the same house and still called each other (haha), as well as new statements on form 888's from family and friends and other bits and pieces like greeting cards and invitations to other peoples housewarming parties/weddings etc.

It's not really as simple as just using the same evidence that you used for your PMV and then updating it a bit - it's a totally different application and therefore you need new evidence, not just the old stuff that DIAC already have on file.

Don't mean to shoot you down or be rude CG, but it is quite different and I hope you can understand so that it's easier for you once you get here also!



This! That's what bridging visas are for You'll be on one of those until your application has a decision.

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Just to note: When you're going from 820 to PR, THAT is much less evidence required - you only have to include the specific things they ask you for.

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Ok guys i just called the immi in Perth and apparently your all basically right in your information especially CG ( as always lol) you do need to submit all your old applications plus all your new evidence since living here as man and wife utility bills, marriage certificate any new drivers licence you hold in Australia, membership cards ( doesnt make sense but hey evidence evidence evidence lol) any private health schemes you may have joined, working pay slips.
Something that may be interesting for all of you guys is that by the end of the year the prices are going up ( she could verify the exact price ) plus the forms are going to change dramatically where as you dont need to submit as much info anymore they will use the details on record so all you need to submit is the decs from friends and family plus any new evidence. When i asked why this was she said because Australia is keen to cut down on the use of paper waste ( i nearly choked on my tea laughing but thats another story). So for those applying later in the year for the second satge then hey things will be easier by all accounts.

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That's great! That makes SO much more sense. I have been waiting for them to see the light on that one!

As to the price increase - they JUST increased it as of Sept. 1 - they're increasing it AGAIN by the end of the year? Sheesh!!!

Thanks for the info, Louise.

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Old 09-02-2013, 01:25 AM
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That's great! That makes SO much more sense. I have been waiting for them to see the light on that one!

As to the price increase - they JUST increased it as of Sept. 1 - they're increasing it AGAIN by the end of the year? Sheesh!!!

Thanks for the info, Louise.
Ah CG maybe this increase is the one she is referring to how much did it go up to ( i didnt check ) i know it was just under $1,000 the last time i checked. Thanks CG as always your advice is spot on.

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