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HELP! Might not beable to do a defacto Visa?!

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Old 09-22-2009, 10:28 AM
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HELP! Might not beable to do a defacto Visa?!

Ive just read somewhere that if you live together in a shared house you are not eligable for a defacto - is this correct?!


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Old 09-22-2009, 11:02 AM
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Not necessarily. You just need to be able to prove that you lived with your partner for 12 months.

Take a look at the immigration website and some of the many threads already discussed here on defacto visas.

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I went through this so i feel your panic--here is what you do.

Step one...breathe! it's going to be o.k. What i have learned is that immi are not the anti-love patrol. They just really want to make sure that you are a for real, been together and living together for at least one year, couple. Remember, being "Defacto" is a pretty big deal in the eyes of the law and government as in the rights it gives the person--you are technically regarded as married without actually being married. In other countries, Defacto is called a "common-law marriage." You have to prove that you live as a married couple depite not having the liscence.

In saying that, again....breathe....relax.

Now divide and conquer--you lived in a share house. So what?

Did you two move into the share house as a couple? Did you meet as housemates then move all your stuff together? Were you friends before, became housemates, then started dating?

Your situation NEEDS to be explained in BOTH of your statements. Tell immi why it was neccesary for the two of you to live in a share house.

In what name was the bond and utilities? If you are both on it, great, provide copies of that. If not--provide copies of bank statements for the full year you were together and highlight payments.

Besides living, there is plenty of OTHER proof you can provide to prove that you are and are considered by others to be defacto.

-joint bank account
-travel together
-purchases which involved only the two of you (did you two buy your own groceries without the other housemates--most grocery stores have a number code next to them, highlight all corresponding grocery purchases on both of your statements)
-stat decs from friends and family: in your case, get your housemates to write them to show that, indeed, they lived with you but you both shared a room and are a couple.

There can be plenty more too, i dont know your individual situation, im just trying to point you in the right direction.

I had sooooooooooooooooooooo many freak outs when i was putting together my application so i feel your pain. Just read the Booklet 1 (from the immi website) provide proof in everyway you can and you should be fine. Just put yourself in immi's shoes--what COULD look fishy to them, what can you give them that proves that it isn't?

Good luck--keep researching your visa and relaxing and you'll pull through. =)

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Old 09-23-2009, 06:28 AM
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Just to reinforce what Mike and elkitten say Daisy, regardless of what you read wherever, you're always best to look at what the immi site says and in this case whereas a relationship means living together [and they say to the exclusion of all others which is a little weird and I suppose they have their own meaning but people as couples have relationships under the same roof where others may be living all over the planet] reading the immi section: you will see that it does not give a definite specification of where or with who living premises may be shared.

In your other thread you state you have bill receipts etc. and though the opening of a joint bank account [actually a bit of an old hat approach for some couples who may want to have some financial independence] may be a recent event, it is normal for that level of commitment not to be reached until after sime time together.

And what is listed in that thread is indicative of what information/evidence may be provided in support of a relationship, it actually stating:
Some of the factors to be considered in deciding whether the partners satisfy the requirement include:

Knowledge of each other's personal circumstances
financial aspects of the relationship, joint financial commitments such as real estate or other assets and sharing day-to-day household expenses
the nature of the household, including living arrangements and joint care and responsibility for any children of the relationship
the social aspects of the relationship, provided in statements (statutory declarations) by friends and acquaintances and
the nature of the commitment, including duration of the relationship, how long the couple has been living together and whether they see the relationship as a long-term one.
No preclusion of being in shared accommodation and
more reference @ Evidence of Dependency

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Old 05-24-2010, 09:45 AM
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help !! defacto relationship (6 months)

can you post more information about shared bills please?

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Old 05-24-2010, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by daisy_d View Post
Ive just read somewhere that if you live together in a shared house you are not eligable for a defacto - is this correct?!

I do not know where you have read that daisy but it is possible if you do not have good supporting documentation of living as a couple in a relationship and I expect that in living in a shared house a couple may have less of that.
It could well mean that other associated documentation and corroboratory statements need to be even stronger.

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