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Old 09-10-2013, 04:31 PM
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If you are rich, coming from a non risk country and with good education, the doors of Australian Eden are open, if not, stay out.
So, why am I still waiting out after 6 months? I should be already in!!
Agree with you!!!!!!

People from low risk countries like US, UK, Canada, etc usually have the visa processed in about 3-4 months.
They are very lucky that their countries are categorized under low-risk countries, that they don't have to wait for their visas for 2 years or longer and don't have to go through 10 million security checks.
While on the other hand someone who comes from a high-risk country like myself who has never had a tiniest criminal record in my entire life both in India and in Australia, no medical complications, no relationship complications have to go through so many checks like I am some kind of a terrorist/criminal.
While the others have it all sorted out for them.

No trying to hate on anyone, its just something that makes me think everyday why does someone has to wait for 24 months or longer to re-unite with their husband or wife/ boyfriend or girlfriend just because they are from a high-risk country.

This is not fair. There is no transparency in this department knowing the fact that so many people have their futures hanging in the air because of the DIAC delays/backlogs and all that kind of crap.

DIAC is the first department where there should be changes in management/ more people should be employed to get rid of this so called "Backlog".
Obviously the government charges the applicants such a high fees but the services provided are so utterly bad. This department is pumping in so much money into the Australian economy and still there are not enough employees/COs to process applications and families are suffering due to this.

I just hope all these issues get solved with this new management. People don't have to wait for years and years to spend a normal, worry-free life with their loved ones and kids.

Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
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"While on the other hand someone who comes from a high-risk country like myself who has never had a tiniest criminal record in my entire life both in India and in Australia, no medical complications, no relationship complications have to go through so many checks like I am some kind of a terrorist/criminal.
While the others have it all sorted out for them."

while I agree with you on the need for more staff to process applications which might help speed up the process for some visa categories at least. I have to disagree on this, which is a pretty sweeping statement.

We all go through the same checks- my PCC/meds will be just as stringent as yours, (even though I can guarantee you my visa will cost 10x yours but high-risk countries are well-known for delays in feedback- again it's pressure of time & resources. Just think how many people apply for visas year on year- in fairness you could never have enough staff- & obviously they can only process those they've received results for ! You're not being thought of as a criminal any more than any of us are - it's just a process that takes its own sweet time .
Wish mine only took a few months though


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I totally agree!!
Yes infamous White australia Policy is the first thing that came into my mind.
And the increase in cost is simply discriminatory. As the salary requirement.
This is racism disguised as efficency..
If you are rich, coming from a non risk country and with good education, the doors of Australian Eden are open, if not, stay out.
So, why am I still waiting out after 6 months? I should be already in!!

omg I can hardly believe you wrote all that- it's inflammatory high cost of visa = Racism & White Australia Policy? we all pay the same for visas.

why on earth do you want to emigrate to a country you have such a low opinion of?

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"While on the other hand someone who comes from a high-risk country like myself who has never had a tiniest criminal record in my entire life both in India and in Australia, no medical complications, no relationship complications have to go through so many checks like I am some kind of a terrorist/criminal.
While the others have it all sorted out for them."

while I agree with you on the need for more staff to process applications which might help speed up the process for some visa categories at least. I have to disagree on this, which is a pretty sweeping statement.

We all go through the same checks- my PCC/meds will be just as stringent as yours, (even though I can guarantee you my visa will cost 10x yours but high-risk countries are well-known for delays in feedback- again it's pressure of time & resources. Just think how many people apply for visas year on year- in fairness you could never have enough staff- & obviously they can only process those they've received results for ! You're not being thought of as a criminal any more than any of us are - it's just a process that takes its own sweet time .
Wish mine only took a few months though

Hi there,

I mean no disrespect to anyone whatsoever. It was how I feel. I know some low risk applicants get stuck with these security checks like the ones from a high-risk country.

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Agree with you!!!!!!

People from low risk countries like US, UK, Canada, etc usually have the visa processed in about 3-4 months.
But as per what I wrote in my above post, I mentioned "usually" which leaves the margin of some of the applicants from a low-risk country getting stuck with these security checks. But again most of the time, visa processing time period in comparison to a low-risk country is ridiculous.

Just because someone is from a high-risk country, the security checks become ten times as tough as they already are doesn't matter if they have a clear record.
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Also if you have a look at the family timelines of individuals, low-risk countries visa applicant's get approved much quicker as compared to someone from a high-risk country.

Anyways, I wish everyone well and good luck to those who are waiting for their visas.

Kind Regards,
Becky

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but high-risk countries are well-known for delays in feedback- again it's pressure of time & resources
I can not agree with you that "high risk" (or however they call countries that they throttle immigration stream) are delaying in feedback. One applicant who applied two weeks before me from the same country, family and background situation as me got his visa 9 months before and I am still waiting for it. So my country is not delaying in feedback. You obviously think that all " high risk" countries use telegraph and Pony express to send informations to ASIO.

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why on earth do you want to emigrate to a country you have such a low opinion of?
I don't have a low opinion. I just have a strong opinion and I expressed in a italian way.
Maybe you can't see the difference and you are not used to it.
What I said It's very similar to what other people before me wrote.

I can come and live in Australia even if I don't like some aspects of Australian history, culture and society.
Is a requirement to admire everything (even the things that are wrong for your beliefs) in the country you have to immigrate for family reasons?

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I can not agree with you that "high risk" (or however they call countries that they throttle immigration stream) are delaying in feedback. One applicant who applied two weeks before me from the same country, family and background situation as me got his visa 9 months before and I am still waiting for it. So my country is not delaying in feedback. You obviously think that all " high risk" countries use telegraph and Pony express to send informations to ASIO.
I am not writing what I think, but what I see happening. Not just on this forum but on others too. Low-risk and high-risk have a great deal of contribution in letting a CO decide if an applicant needs a 6 month long security check or not.

Also the departments who help ASIO get the information in some countries are slow as. It's not that they use telegraph or pony express to send information, the departments take a very long time in providing the security agencies with the relevant information and therefore the estimated time period for a high risk country is 12 months.

There are exceptions in every case. So if an applicant from a high-risk country gets lucky his application gets approval in 5 months while someone from a low risk country gets stuck for much longer than that.

This is my opinion. Not saying it is a fact.

Kind Regards,
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Also the departments who help ASIO get the information in some countries are slow as.
And those departments are ASIO's and Australian government departments not "high risk" country's. High risk countries are not doing security checks for ASIO so we can not blame them for lengthy security check as stated above.

After all, you can not just take thousands of dollars for visa fees and blame someone else for what is part of your process and work. You have to take control of all parts of your process and be sure that all parts are working as they should. If there is a flaw you should take action and fix it or adjust it to new needs and changes.

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"High risk countries are not doing security checks for ASIO..."

Sunny, hate to disagree, but yes, they are!

I'm not an expert by any means - but from what I've read that IS exactly what happens.

DIAC do their own checks. They farm it out to ASIO in EVERY case for more thorough security checks. ASIO does their own Australia-specific checks if you've ever been in the country. Then they *coordinate with their counterpart government agency* in any country where you've ever lived (or in some cases, just visited) to see what kind of information *that* country has on you. With some countries, they can use electronic systems to share information almost instantaneously and they get the information they need quickly. With others, they can't make the request electronically. They must send the request and then wait. Some countries may not share information electronically, but may have the information stored on electronic systems and be able to turn it around and get it to ASIO fairly quickly. Still others have the capability, but not the staff to handle all the requests, which means it takes forever. And yes, there are countries where everything is done on paper, and things are not easily organized or files are lost. Then it can take months and months to locate your record and get it to ASIO.

Yes, there can be a delay caused by ASIO here and there - it happens - but continual audits of that agency have demonstrated time and time again that it is not that agency holding up the security check process. It's the fact that once they contact that other country's intelligence organization for information on you, they can do nothing but wait until that other country responds.

I'm sure ASIO probably does do more intense, in-depth investigations into applicants from high-risk countries (again, using information they have or can obtain AND information directly from THAT country's government)... but why wouldn't they? It's not that you're a criminal, or that you're being looked at as a criminal. It's simply that, for example, if you know that people from certain countries are much more statistically likely to have come in contact with tuberculosis, you're going to require a more in-depth medical examination for those people. It's not discriminatory, it's simply using risk assessment to determine who gets looked at more closely. They are trying to protect their own country's citizens. It's hard to find fault in that.

And I say that as someone whose medical issues could very well keep her out of Australia because of the financial risk assessment they do.

I understand your frustration - I REALLY do. I have been apart from my fiance, with the exception of a two-week holiday, for three years now! It's awful. Only 11 months of that is immigration-related (5 months for my visa, 6 months extra that his PR took beyond what it was supposed to take to process, and we couldn't apply until he got it). I may not completely know what it's like to walk in your shoes - no one can - but to some degree, I DO understand.

In your shoes I'd be looking for someone, anyone to blame, to be angry at because they were holding things up. And ASIO is the easiest target since they're the ones in charge of security clearances. I just think the anger is misplaced.

I mean, I have no horse in this race. The only reason I care about the right place getting the blame for delays is simple: The only time I have ever, ever seen anyone successfully speed up their own security checks when they had waited an abnormal amount of time, it was by putting pressure on their home country's agencies. Obviously, one case is not a pattern. But it's the only case where I've seen an applicant have any success in helping push their external checks through, and it does help to validate that what I've read is correct regarding how ASIO and external checks function.

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As I said more than once, I know and agree that every country has all rights and should check who comes over its border but they should do it in timely manner. What I said in above post (sorry, English is not my mother language) is that they ( DIAC, government department) can not include security checks in their process (for which they take large amount of fees) and blame other countries and other country agencies for not doing their work. They should fix their assessment technology and all parts of the process to ensure every information needed comes back in normal time. You can not just take money and not give what you advertised. Expecting of us applicants to believe and accept that 2 years for example is just normal time for security checks is ridiculous.

I just said what is on my mind but I promised myself not to be involved in any debate about visa and stuff. In this 15 months my blood pressure rose on 175/110 and if you consider my relative young age of late thirties I should be very careful with my health. That is one of the side effects of this whole process.

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