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Old 09-10-2013, 09:10 PM
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How can DIAC have control over how long other countries take to return information to them?

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as much as I don't like Abbott or the LNP (not that I like Labor any better really), they probably will eventually make it easier for 457 visas and skilled immigration. but likely nothing at all will get done before they figure out if they're going to a double dissolution or not.


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People from low risk countries like US, UK, Canada, etc usually have the visa processed in about 3-4 months.
I don't know about the UK or Canada, but the US does not process visas for immigration quickly. It took my wife and I over a year to get her green card processed, and we have friends who have waited just as long with more issues than we had. people do sometimes get processed that fast in the US, but I hear of people in Australia getting processed that fast too.


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Old 09-11-2013, 02:05 AM
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Becky meant that people FROM the US get their Australian visas processed that quickly.

That's not quite true, either, though. The Philippines sees an average of 3-4 months, but the US is 5-6 months or more. Still, her point, that high-risk countries take a lot longer, is quite true.

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Old 09-11-2013, 06:22 PM
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Still, her point, that high-risk countries take a lot longer, is quite true.
Hey CollegeGirl,

Yes, all I was trying to say was that the time frame of partner visa processing offshore for a high risk country is ridiculously high.

I apologize if some of the numbers in my previous post weren't accurate.

Glad you understood what I meant
Thanks a lot!

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Old 09-13-2013, 10:37 PM
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Agree with you!!!!!!

People from low risk countries like US, UK, Canada, etc usually have the visa processed in about 3-4 months.
They are very lucky that their countries are categorized under low-risk countries, that they don't have to wait for their visas for 2 years or longer and don't have to go through 10 million security checks.
While on the other hand someone who comes from a high-risk country like myself who has never had a tiniest criminal record in my entire life both in India and in Australia, no medical complications, no relationship complications have to go through so many checks like I am some kind of a terrorist/criminal.
While the others have it all sorted out for them.

No trying to hate on anyone, its just something that makes me think everyday why does someone has to wait for 24 months or longer to re-unite with their husband or wife/ boyfriend or girlfriend just because they are from a high-risk country.

This is not fair. There is no transparency in this department knowing the fact that so many people have their futures hanging in the air because of the DIAC delays/backlogs and all that kind of crap.

DIAC is the first department where there should be changes in management/ more people should be employed to get rid of this so called "Backlog".
Obviously the government charges the applicants such a high fees but the services provided are so utterly bad. This department is pumping in so much money into the Australian economy and still there are not enough employees/COs to process applications and families are suffering due to this.

I just hope all these issues get solved with this new management. People don't have to wait for years and years to spend a normal, worry-free life with their loved ones and kids.

Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
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To be fair - and this is just a feeling, I could be dead wrong - the low risk countries you mentioned are all English speaking countries as well. I'm from a low-risk country (The Netherlands, applying onshore) and I have the impression that my country of origin gives me no particular advantage at all (no disadvantage either, still). Most quick grants from fellow low-risk Europeans I have seen pass through here were British.

That said the 8 months waiting so far (could be much worse, I know!) might slowly be making me paranoid.

I think we all face particular challenges in this process - high risk countries more so than low risk - but it is not the only challenge. I can be as low risk as I want, my partner is unemployed (being my sponsor) and we live with his parents (no joint bills in our names). Is that not as unfair, that people with less financial resources (even though one is low-risk and one is Australian!) are also guilty until proven innocent? We live with his parents while he recovers from an injury and we are saving up from my stable income to eventually buy a house so we don't have to rent - we feel fortunate and wealthy to have this chance! But to DIAC it would look "lacking".

The other day I saw a man on Facebook who had his profile splashed full of messages like "I come from a poverty country, if you take me as your husband I will buy my own ticket if you help me come to your country" - and stuff like that is why the partner visa system is so unevenly distributed, it made me sad. I understand why someone would want out of poverty, the world isn't fair, at the same rate this makes the system even more unbalanced and problematic for those who are in love.

So with that said, the state of humanity is hurting my brain, I need more coffee.

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Actually, Nelly, if it makes you feel better, average processing time for the UK is 8-9 months, and they're very stringent there about not granting early. They will tell people straight out that their case is finalized and ready but they can't grant until they hit the 8 month mark. Occasionally people get through faster, but it doesn't happen often.

The fastest grants come from the Philippines - definitely not an English-speaking country.

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Actually, Nelly, if it makes you feel better, average processing time for the UK is 8-9 months, and they're very stringent there about not granting early. They will tell people straight out that their case is finalized and ready but they can't grant until they hit the 8 month mark. Occasionally people get through faster, but it doesn't happen often.

The fastest grants come from the Philippines - definitely not an English-speaking country.
Wow really?! I didn't know about the 8 month thing! To be honest I pay more attention to onshore than offshore, the process seems so radically different even though it is supposed to be exactly the same principle.

Actually the "English" mention reminds me (sorry complete subject change!) - I suddenly recall somewhere in this thread was a mention that English language proficiency might be introduced for partner visas - I think that would be a healthy thing for "both sides".

In The Netherlands everyone who wants a permanent visa has to learn Dutch except for people from English speaking countries. My Aussie man felt incredibly isolated while we lived in The Netherlands because he did not understand the language - people would speak to him in English but speak to each other in Dutch, making him unable to learn from practice (Dutch are eager to show off their English skills) and at the same time feel excluded from half the conversation when they were speaking Dutch to each other. He thought it was ridiculous that he wouldn't have had to learn Dutch because it would have kept him on the sidelines of every social situation.

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Hi Nelly, nobody's arguing that it's not necessary for visa holders to learn English once they're in Australia - and we already have a system that supports this: the Adult Migrant English Program (AMEP), funded by DIAC itself, and available to partner visa holders, and recently the new policy for the citizenship test, which can only be taken in English.

But it would be extreme to require partner visa applicants to already have a functional competency in the language in order to even be eligible to apply. Imagine if the Netherlands hadn't wanted to even let your partner into the country if he wasn't already able to express himself in Dutch. Where would that have left you? How long would you have had to be apart while he went to Dutch lessons in Australia, trying to achieve a basic proficiency with no native Dutch speakers to talk or listen to? I would say years.

This is our issue: that proficiency in English at the time of application may soon become a condition of eligibility for partner visas, and that this would be completely unrealistic and lead to many couples being forced apart for something that could be best rectified only inside Australia.

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There is a much broader picture here away from the love relationship....the failure to communicate and write in basic English has immence repercussions on the daily life of any migrant....This is why early migrants felt the need to all live in a certain suburb and its still going on today with the latest being from Moslem n African Countries....

Having lived in Melb most of my life, The early Greeks n Italians took over suburbs like Oakleigh. Now they have assimilated perfectly and rarely bring their old cultural issues to the fore...Vietnamese>>Springvale>>Sunshine....Chinese moved around but Glen Waverley is known as Little Bejing.......Today Africans and Balkan nationals >>Dandenong. (Based mainly on same nationality couples)

Language and culture still is the great divide...MY OPINION

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