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Old 09-15-2013, 01:07 AM
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Hi Nelly, nobody's arguing that it's not necessary for visa holders to learn English once they're in Australia - and we already have a system that supports this: the Adult Migrant English Program (AMEP), funded by DIAC itself, and available to partner visa holders, and recently the new policy for the citizenship test, which can only be taken in English.

But it would be extreme to require partner visa applicants to already have a functional competency in the language in order to even be eligible to apply. Imagine if the Netherlands hadn't wanted to even let your partner into the country if he wasn't already able to express himself in Dutch. Where would that have left you? How long would you have had to be apart while he went to Dutch lessons in Australia, trying to achieve a basic proficiency with no native Dutch speakers to talk or listen to? I would say years.

This is our issue: that proficiency in English at the time of application may soon become a condition of eligibility for partner visas, and that this would be completely unrealistic and lead to many couples being forced apart for something that could be best rectified only inside Australia.
Oh I agree with you... I guess I had the Dutch system in mind, where the Dutch lessons are included in The Netherlands for the immigrants. I certainly would not vote for people who are not fluent never being allowed in to learn it, why would I want that? In the Dutch system the basic proficiency test comes with the lessons - let me rephrase then: the migrants are not expected to be able to pass a Dutch test, they are expected to complete and pass a Dutch course. (Edit: this is for the permanent step, not the initial temporary).

In that sense I feel it is important it is included. I would never want to stand in the way of other couples... all I care about is that the relationship is genuine.

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Old 09-16-2013, 10:23 AM
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Mr Scott Morrison declare new Immigration Minister. Is this good news for 457 visa holders? Is they make ENS easy? Is anyone have idea whats new changes coming in next few days?? I think Mr Mark have knowledge about this.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:33 AM
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Hi All -

I, like everyone, can only guess at what will be happning, but my guess is that the new government will be more pro-business which means a good chance they will perhaps consider less restrictions on the 457 and ENS/RSMS visas. Will they make these visas "easy"? Nope. But given the mountain of new requirements for the 457 enacted on 1 July, we can only hope that the new govt will consider stabilising the system rather than continuing to pile more and more requirements on visa applicants and their employers.

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Aside from the effect with immigration requirements, can we look at the angle of jobs and employment.

Would job availability increase or decrease(overall economic activity)?

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Dear Mark

Please help me in this matter.

I recently got invitation for visa 489.Now I have to apply for visa.My spouse is intermediate (Grade 12 passed).

I just want to know that to prove functional English of my spouse can I show letter from primary and secondary school that medium of instruction is English?

Please help me in this matter.

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Old 10-04-2013, 11:10 AM
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Hi Immi-Aus

Thanks for the note. You should carefully review the Functional English guidelines here:

Functional English

Unfortunately the "all English instruction" refers only to trade qualifications, diplomas or higher (Bachelor, Masters), and does not include primary and secondary school , so a letter from primary/secondary schools would not suffice. Since the IELTS requirement is 4.5 overall, it may be better to take the test and satisfy it that way depending on your situation.

Hope this helps -

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Becky meant that people FROM the US get their Australian visas processed that quickly.

That's not quite true, either, though. The Philippines sees an average of 3-4 months, but the US is 5-6 months or more. Still, her point, that high-risk countries take a lot longer, is quite true.
Hi!
Am new in the forum and am about to lodge my visa 189 application. I got curious about the discussion about high or low- risk countries. Now that Philippines ( of which am a citizen ) had been mentioned, am even more interested to ask if it is considered as high risk? Does that mean It takes longer for security check? Also, based on the checklist for documents to be submitted for lodging 189, none is mentioned about form 80. When do I have to upload this form?

Thanks you in advance for your response!

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Old 10-05-2013, 12:50 AM
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Hi!
Am new in the forum and am about to lodge my visa 189 application. I got curious about the discussion about high or low- risk countries. Now that Philippines ( of which am a citizen ) had been mentioned, am even more interested to ask if it is considered as high risk? Does that mean It takes longer for security check? Also, based on the checklist for documents to be submitted for lodging 189, none is mentioned about form 80. When do I have to upload this form?

Thanks you in advance for your response!
I think this discussion is more about the partner visa (300, 309 & 820) rather than 189. So, form 80 might not be relevant to your application.


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Agree with you!!!!!!

People from low risk countries like US, UK, Canada, etc usually have the visa processed in about 3-4 months.
They are very lucky that their countries are categorized under low-risk countries, that they don't have to wait for their visas for 2 years or longer and don't have to go through 10 million security checks.
While on the other hand someone who comes from a high-risk country like myself who has never had a tiniest criminal record in my entire life both in India and in Australia, no medical complications, no relationship complications have to go through so many checks like I am some kind of a terrorist/criminal.
While the others have it all sorted out for them.

No trying to hate on anyone, its just something that makes me think everyday why does someone has to wait for 24 months or longer to re-unite with their husband or wife/ boyfriend or girlfriend just because they are from a high-risk country.

This is not fair. There is no transparency in this department knowing the fact that so many people have their futures hanging in the air because of the DIAC delays/backlogs and all that kind of crap.

DIAC is the first department where there should be changes in management/ more people should be employed to get rid of this so called "Backlog".
Obviously the government charges the applicants such a high fees but the services provided are so utterly bad. This department is pumping in so much money into the Australian economy and still there are not enough employees/COs to process applications and families are suffering due to this.

I just hope all these issues get solved with this new management. People don't have to wait for years and years to spend a normal, worry-free life with their loved ones and kids.

Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
Becky

i agree with every thing you said, but i did hear our new so called leader say{this is our country and we will determine who comes here} so now you know how this man thinks.


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Please Eleanor , spare me your LNP bashing , we have just endured six years of incompetent and incompetent labor , that has clogged processing channels with thousands of illegal and undocumented invaders . Coalition is in power for a very short time and i am sure will do its best to speed up the process and clean up this enormous mess left by greens and labor. Please keep your labor/green bias to yourself.

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