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Old 10-09-2009, 03:24 AM
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Continue with 885 or go for 175???

I have completed Master's in IT and applied for 885 based on that. Applied in Jan this year and haven't yet been allocated a case officer yet.

I am currently working as a Java programmer (this is on CSL) and will finish an year with my current organisation in Jan 2010.

I am also a Bachelor's in electronics engineering.

So my question is which of the following options shud I select:

1. Stick with 885 as it's almost been a year so may be things are in progress.

2. Lodge a second application (If I have excess money to spend and no time to waste) go for:
a. 175 - apply this using my experience as its on CSL
b. 175- on the basis of Bachelors in Electronics Engineering (but I dont have any experience in this)

I dont want to wait for 3 years to get PR, If I can in anyway get it early wud be really happy. So any guidance in this matter will be appreciated. If there is another alternative please suggest.

ENS is not a possibility so please don't suggest that.

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Old 10-09-2009, 03:09 PM
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I assume Santosh that you are aware of the new processing priorities - http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...processing.pdf and if not or even if so, have a further look there and an 885 and a 175 will be on same priority - Level 4.

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a. 175 - apply this using my experience as its on CSL
would you not be using the same qualifications for the 885? and you have done the ACS assessment? and had it granted have you?
Does your IT qualification assessment put you on the CSL?

Q10 there says unsponsored applicants with occupations on the CSL can expect to receive a visa within 12 months though that could be stretched.

But the main thing is to have the ACS qualification assessment which you really needed for an 885 application and you need to have the 120 points.

If you do meet all eligibility requirements for the 885 you could look at speeding the process up if you were able to get a state nomination and go for an 886 visa and that would put you on a level 2 priority.

With the work you have now and you say you will have been there a year in January 2010, do you mean you only had a years contract or that a year will be up and there is mutual satisfaction between you and the employer to continue?

If so, an 886 just means that you stick within the state you are in now for two years of employment, not necessarly with same employer but being employed now would be in your favour to get a state nomination.





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Old 10-15-2009, 02:15 AM
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Thanks for the response, please find response to ur questions below:

1. Yes, I have read the new processing priorities n that's y I was thinking of going ahead with for this added expense of applying for 175

2. would you not be using the same qualifications for the 885? and you have done the ACS assessment? and had it granted have you?
- I ll be using the same qualification which is Master's in IT but I ll also be using experience. With computing profession I guess you need to specialise in a stream rather than just be computing professional. So I ll be accessed as Java Programmer rather than a MIT only.

3. Does your IT qualification assessment put you on the CSL?
Like I have stated above I have currently assessed as MIT with no specialisation. So not on CSL

4. State sponsorship:
I applied for it as a MIT graduate and got a reply saying they have currently stopped sponsoring computing professional graduates. So that's the end of the story there

5. I will complete an year with the organisation and my contract gets renewed on an yearly basis. So it will be renewed in Jan 2010 for another year.

So the only reason I was thinking of applying for 175 is bcoz I ll be on CSL. With my current 885 application which is purely based on my master's degree its not on CSL. So that ll be probably be not same in prority compared to an application with CSL.

I hope I tried to clarify the questions you had but looking forward for ur suggestion.


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Old 10-22-2009, 10:20 PM
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Wanderer please reply. Waiting for ur suggestion so I can talk to my employer based on that


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Old 10-24-2009, 12:15 AM
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You've still got me a little confused Santosh as far as
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[I have completed Master's in IT and applied for 885 based on that. Applied in Jan this year and haven't yet been allocated a case officer yet.

I am currently working as a Java programmer (this is on CSL) and will finish an year with my current organisation in Jan 2010.]

I do not often look at 885 requirements but Skilled – Independent (Residence) visa (subclass 885) shows eligibility requirements of having either two years study here which you could have done with the MIT or an eligible visa, eg. 497

In addition you need an eligible qualification as on SOL - http://www.immi.gov.au/allforms/pdf/1121i.pdf and you need to have an occupational assessment for that.
Thus I'm not sure how/what you have your 885 application based on.

What is for sure is that you cannot use your engineering to apply if you have no experience.

So it would come back to 885 or a 175 but for whichever one you choose you still need a SOL eligibility qualification/assessment and for IT qualifications that means an assessment by ACS.
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[I ll be using the same qualification which is Master's in IT but I ll also be using experience. With computing profession I guess you need to specialise in a stream rather than just be computing professional. So I ll be accessed as Java Programmer rather than a MIT only.]

If you're considering the use of Java work and looking to be assessed by ACS in that, you had first better look at the ACS web site to assess whether you'll meet their requirements for there is something I believe about having to have 4 years of experience with overseas qualifications though an MIT here may get past that.

If you then have an occupation on CSL that will give you better priority than one not on CSL.
There is also an immigration announcement expected very shortly re restructuring of the MODL/CSL arrangement and it may be worth waiting for that too.
The only problem with a 175 is that no bridging visa applies as it is an offshore visa and that brings me back to the basis of your 885 application for if you do not have a proper occupational category and it gets rejected and you then only have a 175 application in, you will have to leave the country.

Even if the 175 was to be granted while you still have the 885 current, you'll have to arrange to leave the country to have the 175 granted.





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Old 10-26-2009, 02:12 AM
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Thanks for the update Wanderer


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Old 10-27-2009, 03:39 AM
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applying for visa 175 while visa 476 has been applied

Dear friends
i've applied for visa subclass 476 and i've lodged for 1 month.
i have Msc and BC degree in electrical Eng and i've got 3 years related work experience for applying for the visa 175.
the question is:
can i apply for visa 175 while i've already applied for 476?
how can i proceed for both visas at the same time?
cheers,


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Old 10-27-2009, 01:50 PM
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raminrabet,
Yes you can apply for more than one visa at a time but have a close look at eligibility criteria for the 476 is for recent graduates and if you have three years of working since graduation you may not be eligible.

You can only ever hold one visa and usually it'll be the last one granted that will cancel out any other granted first.

You should also have a read of http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...processing.pdf





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Old 11-04-2009, 01:04 AM
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I have completed Master's in IT and applied for 885 based on that. Applied in Jan this year and haven't yet been allocated a case officer yet.

I am currently working as a Java programmer (this is on CSL) and will finish an year with my current organisation in Jan 2010.

I am also a Bachelor's in electronics engineering.

So my question is which of the following options shud I select:

1. Stick with 885 as it's almost been a year so may be things are in progress.

2. Lodge a second application (If I have excess money to spend and no time to waste) go for:
a. 175 - apply this using my experience as its on CSL
b. 175- on the basis of Bachelors in Electronics Engineering (but I dont have any experience in this)

I dont want to wait for 3 years to get PR, If I can in anyway get it early wud be really happy. So any guidance in this matter will be appreciated. If there is another alternative please suggest.

ENS is not a possibility so please don't suggest that.

Thanks
Hi Santosh,

Your post does not provide enough information but I will answer as best I can with the information to hand.

I assume that you applied for a subclass 885 visa with a skills assessment from ACS as a computing professional not elsewhere classified. If this is correct you are not on the CSL and will not obtain priority processing.

If I understand correctly, you are stating that once you have completed a full year of employment with Java specialization, you will have another skills assessment done as a professional not elsewhere classified with Java specialization and therefore be on the CSL.

If the above is correct there are a number of possible scenarios:

You may not have to lodge a new application as technically, your nominated occupation and ASCO code will remain the same. Supplying the new skills assessment with the Java specialization may be enough to give you priority assessment. This would need to be researched:

If point 1 is not possible, you can lodge a new application with the CSL skills assessment and therefore obtain priority assessment. Whether you lodge a new 885 or a 175 will depend on what visa you currently hold.
Hope this helps.

Raul T Senise Registered Australian Migration Agent, MARA No. 0636699


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Old 11-04-2009, 09:47 PM
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Thanks for your reply aba. You have correctly interpreted my situation and the alternatives that you have offered is exactly what I was looking for.

Now to obtain a skills assessment as a (Java) professional will 1 year of onshore experience be sufficient considering the fact that I have done Master's in computing professional from an Australian University or I will require 4 years of experience.

alternative 1 offered by you is really good that will save some money for me. I will try and research more on that.


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