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Don't forget that the whole system is driven by politics. The politicians are only interested in getting re elected and therefore react only to what is going to win them the most votes.
Some individual members are prepared to help their constituents on an individual basis, but unfortunately there is little support in general from the electorate for an improvement in the situation regarding partner visas.
All the average tax payer is concerned about is what is coming out of their pockets, and if partner visas cost were increased to $100,000 they couldn't care less!
As others have stated before, the Australian Partner Visa is easier to get than the equivalent in other countries who frequently impose restrictions relating to finance etc.

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Waltzing in to add - according to a department report in 2008 (when the cost of a partner visa was $1390) - the visa stream was bringing in a net profit. Arguably the costs of processing the same visa is higher today, but with the cost of a partner visa hovering around ~$7000 I wonder what the profit margin is.

I do agree that there is room for substantial service improvement - if not in processing time - at least in how various stages of assessment may be communicated to applicants to assuage their anxiety.

I have personally seen such client-centered service from the ACT migration services team, would be lovely if it was scalable to a Federal level.

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We are on different pages. The government doesn't own this country, they are public servants of the people. The cost is ridiculous and the time to process is poor management.
Couldn't agree more. The processing time and cost in Canada or the US is much less. With the amount of documents that are required you would think it would make a case officer's job easier. What is $7,000 paying for? That is an obscene amount of money for the service one gets.

Most applications are done online, the review probably doesn't take more than a day. The amount of misinformation from DHA itself is mind numbing. If you contact the agency they can't or won't advise on anything. And now we have roving gangs of thugs terrorizing the citizens of Melbourne, how did they pass muster?

This is such a mismanaged agency wrought with inefficiency. The mere fact that many need to fork out additional funds for an RMA to decipher the application speaks volumes. It makes the US Postal Service look good, and that ain't saying much....

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I don't disagree that the wait times are horrendous, but people only seem to care when it affects them so they'll whinge and whinge and whinge on a public forum but once that golden letter is in their hand, they don't care about how long it takes for anyone else. You can't be mad that no one fought the system to change for you in the past if you don't fight for the system to change for others in the future. At the end of the day, immigration is pretty clear on how long it's going to take so I'm not sure why people are surprised when they don't get processed straight away.

And yes, the price is expensive. We were kicking ourselves for not applying 10 years before when we first flirted with the idea of moving to Australia, and couldn't believe how expensive it was a few years ago even without using an agent. And the price will likely just keep going up, so it's even worse for those coming after you.

I just don't see a way to clear the backlog if there will always be more people applying than what they're willing to accept each year. They're not just going to open the floodgates and let an unlimited amount of partners in. I always wonder if the increased price has reduced the number of applicants as not everyone can afford the total costs involved (as it's never just the application fee).

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TL;DR: Yes it sucks. But what are you doing to change it?
Probably nothing, but whinging on a forum is cathartic
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Probably nothing, but whinging on a forum is cathartic
Sure, and I get that people feel that way. But immigration bashing is a lot of negative energy and I don't see how being that angry helps anyone. In fact, studies have shown that venting isn't actually good for you.

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Fine system

There are a whole lot of people who abusively game the partner visa system.

If you apply for a partner visa from within Australia while here on a tourist visa visiting your partner, and there is nothing terribly wrong on your record (such as visa overstay) you automatically and immediately get a bridging visa, which gives you everything you could want - medicare and the right to work and stay indefinitely. So why are you impatient unless you intend to ditch your partner the moment you get your partner visa?

What is wrong with having a bridging visa rather than a partner visa?

And if you applied for a partner visa from outside Australia, that smells funny, and they need to look at it carefully.

The longer the better, since the longer it drags on, the less opportunity to abuse the system.

If they had a system that issued partner visas faster, there would be a lot more cases of women announcing domestic abuse and marital rape sixty seconds after their partner visa replaced their bridging visa.

Bureaucratic delay ensures that the relationship is genuine.

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There are a whole lot of people who abusively game the partner visa system.

If you apply for a partner visa from within Australia while here on a tourist visa visiting your partner, and there is nothing terribly wrong on your record (such as visa overstay) you automatically and immediately get a bridging visa, which gives you everything you could want - medicare and the right to work and stay indefinitely. So why are you impatient unless you intend to ditch your partner the moment you get your partner visa?

What is wrong with having a bridging visa rather than a partner visa?

And if you applied for a partner visa from outside Australia, that smells funny, and they need to look at it carefully.

The longer the better, since the longer it drags on, the less opportunity to abuse the system.

If they had a system that issued partner visas faster, there would be a lot more cases of women announcing domestic abuse and marital rape sixty seconds after their partner visa replaced their bridging visa.

Bureaucratic delay ensures that the relationship is genuine.
That's an interesting way of looking at the processing times and there my be some truth in it, however I would think they are more suspicious of people entering the country on a tourist visa and apply for a partner visa right away. You would think that you are in breach of the tourist visa then, as you did not arrived in Oz under false pretences. The discussing can go either way.

My opinion on the $7160 charge (at least for the off-shore application) is to set up a higher financial barrier, hoping that more financially independent people will enter an application. It is a hell lot of money to be begin with.

But, I try not to get stuck in the negative thinking and I just sit and wait. Australia will come on its own terms


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I don't disagree that the wait times are horrendous, but people only seem to care when it affects them so they'll whinge and whinge and whinge on a public forum but once that golden letter is in their hand, they don't care about how long it takes for anyone else. You can't be mad that no one fought the system to change for you in the past if you don't fight for the system to change for others in the future. At the end of the day, immigration is pretty clear on how long it's going to take so I'm not sure why people are surprised when they don't get processed straight away.

And yes, the price is expensive. We were kicking ourselves for not applying 10 years before when we first flirted with the idea of moving to Australia, and couldn't believe how expensive it was a few years ago even without using an agent. And the price will likely just keep going up, so it's even worse for those coming after you.

I just don't see a way to clear the backlog if there will always be more people applying than what they're willing to accept each year. They're not just going to open the floodgates and let an unlimited amount of partners in. I always wonder if the increased price has reduced the number of applicants as not everyone can afford the total costs involved (as it's never just the application fee).

TL;DR: Yes it sucks. But what are you doing to change it?
This is a public forum, if you look back at many of the earlier posts you will see a lot of venting (if you google venting, most results state it is good for you, not bad as you incorrectly state). That's pretty rich that you assume you know what other people care about after they get there grants. As per "whinging", that is the reality of social media, a platform to discuss issues pertaining to the topic at hand. If you don't like what you read, change the channel. Don't think it's up to you to moderate what others discuss. And as to your question about "what am I doing about", mentioning it here is much more useful then squelching my right to discuss it, as others may ponder it as well. Please get a life....


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This is a public forum, if you look back at many of the earlier posts you will see a lot of venting (if you google venting, most results state it is good for you, not bad as you incorrectly state). That's pretty rich that you assume you know what other people care about after they get there grants. As per "whinging", that is the reality of social media, a platform to discuss issues pertaining to the topic at hand. If you don't like what you read, change the channel. Don't think it's up to you to moderate what others discuss. And as to your question about "what am I doing about", mentioning it here is much more useful then squelching my right to discuss it, as others may ponder it as well. Please get a life....
As you stated, it's social media. If you don't like it, change the channel


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