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NEED ADVICE for PROSPECTIVE MARRIAGE VISA!! PLEASE HELP


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Hi guys!!

I am the sponsor while my fiance (applicant) is living in the Philippines. We have met in person but majority of our relationship was long distance.

We are so close to gathering all our documents and requirements, and we are planning to lodge our application in March 2019.

I just have a few concerns and would appreciate some advice! ♥ ♥

- quick relationship background -

* We first met as friends in 2011 at our high school.
I migrated to Australia in 2013, and our relationship started/developed when I reunited with him when I went on a vacation to the Philippines in Feb 2017. (This was the only time in 2017 where we were physically together, for around 2 weeks only)

* Ever since I went back to Aus in March 2017, we have remained in contact and continued our relationship. We started talking about our future and getting married in Australia constantly throughout 2017 to present.

QUESTION 1: Does this count to 'when we got engaged'?? or only when he actually proposed to me with a ring? Is there a certain requirement for how long we are supposed to be engaged for?


* I went on a vacation to visit him in the Philippines twice in 2018.
(first visit was for almost 2 months, and second visit was for 1 month).

We did talk about him getting a tourist visa but he has not yet had the opportunity to visit me in Australia due to college and work (and He has never tried travelling to other countries before, but he got his passport earlier this year)

QUESTION 2: Is that going to be an issue to be concerned about? Does he need to visit me in Australia first prior to lodging our visa?

* We both met each other's family in 2018.
I only have 3 photos together with us with my family, and only 2 photos of us with my fiance’s family. (We met up way more times than this, but we just did not take lots of photos back then when i was in the philippines twice in 2018).

As for friends, we also only have 1 photo with our friends in 2018. Our friends are graduating from college and some are working full time, causes a clash in our schedules which is why we didn’t really get the chance to spend more time with our friends (plus we were honestly focused on spending our limited time of being physically together alot more)

Will this be an issue of concern? Do I need to provide more photos than this?


QUESTION 3: Will this be a problem? Do I need to supply more photos than that?


* As of now, I will be visiting him in the Philippines again for a month in mid January 2019, and in February we are going to be travelling together for the first time (and his first time travelling in general) to Singapore for our 2nd Anniversary.

* During my time in the Philippines in Jan-February 2019, We are planning to get his medical exams done there in advance and then lodge our visa in March 2019.
As for our Notice of Intended Marriage, I am planning to get that done in early January 2019 before I leave Australia to go to the Philippines.

QUESTION 4: Will this be okay to get these documents a month prior to lodging our visa? Is it allowed?



These are also a list of relationship evidence requirements that I have gathered so far:

- 2017 call logs and message history
- 2018 call logs and message history
- 2017 social media posts
- 2018 social media posts
- receipts of gifts we gave to each other (with bank transactions)
- receipts of our hotel bookings (with bank transactions)
- receipts of uber ride histories showing us visiting each other’s houses, going to our hotels, dates, etc (with bank transactions)
- timeline of our relationship that shows photos of significant events and joint activities
- receipts of times money was sent to fiance through remittance website (with bank transactions)
- receipts of our hotel and flight bookings for our trip to singapore in feb 2019.


QUESTION 5:
in regards to ‘ proof that you and your prospective spouse have met face-to-face as adults since turning 18 and know each other personally’
in our written statement it is mentioned that we met in 2017 when we were 19 years old. What other evidence can I provide for this section?

Question 6:
in regards to ‘proof that you and your prospective spouse genuinely intend to live as spouses’
We included talking about our plans to live together in our written statements and also included screenshots of chats/messages about this, as well as links of rental properties we both liked that we sent to each other.


Question 7:
I only have 3 photos together with my fiance and my family, and only 2 photos of me with my fiance’s family. (We met up way more times than this, but we just did not take lots of photos back then when i was in the philippines twice in 2018).

As for friends, we also only have 1 photo with our friends in 2018. Our friends are graduating from college and some are working full time, causes a clash in our schedules which is why we didn’t really get the chance to spend more time with our friends (plus we were honestly focused on spending our limited time of being physically together alot more)

Will this be an issue of concern? Do I need to provide more photos than this?

Question 8:
In regards to joint activities, I can only think about including photos of us going on dates. We never travelled anywhere in 2017 and 2018. We have never went on weddings or parties (only one family reunion event). What are other examples of joint activities??

Question 9:
In regards to Form 888 Statutory Declarations, I am planning to get 3-4 stat decs to be completed in Jan 2019 (2 months before visa lodgement) is this okay? does it matter when a stat dec is made?

Question 10:
In regards to fiance’s Form 80 Character assessment..
My Fiance does not hold a bachelor’s degree since he decided to stop his university studies mid 2018 in order to work full time (his first job) to help save for our future and for the visa.
Will this affect our application, or give a bad impression ?

Question 11:
Since philippines is a high risk country, does that mean processing time for our visa will take longer?


IM SO SORRY for the long post and the many questions.
I am just feeling scared and overwhelmed, only a couple more months until we plan to lodge our visa! We really want to be approved same as everyone else..

We truly appreciate it if you could let us know anything we are missing, any kind of advice, suggestion, or important info!

THANK YOU SOOO SO MUCH!!


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From what you have posted, I suggest that you would be well advised to consult a registered migration agent with Philippine experience.

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I can only answer a few based on my experience doing the 300, but every case is assessed on its own so what works for one may or may not work for another.

I had never visited Australia prior to lodging the 300. My partner had visited me in the U.S. every 3 months 3 times the year before applying. I didn't go to Australia until a few months after the visa was lodged. Because of this, I didn't have any photos of myself with his family or friends.

We did get our witness statements/f888s before lodging. You want them to be fairly recent though. There's no reason to do the medical prior to lodging and I'm not even sure you can for a subclass 300. The form is easy enough to acquire through immi account after the application has been lodged. The medical is one of those things immigration recommends to wait on doing until they request it as it's only valid for 12 months and sometimes processing times exceed that.

Proof we met face to face since turning 18: photos of us with my kid (whose birth certificate showed he was clearly born when I was older than 18), flights to prove my partner was visiting, photos of us on holiday together and hotel receipts, etc. That was all our basic relationship evidence but it covered this anyway. I wrote in the statement the dates we met in person.

Joint activities was easy because when he'd visit, we'd travel around my home state. We also went to a friend's wedding together. We met through a similar volunteer program so we had evidence of doing that together.

There's no requirement to hold a bachelor's degree so not sure why this question is relevant. They don't care if he graduated or dropped out, they just want personal information to run background/security checks.

Visa processing times vary greatly across the board. I've seen low risk countries take around a year and a half often, and high risk granted in months. The opposite is also true.

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Nowadays, case officers use the 4 main aspects of the relationship to evaluate if the relationship is genuine. They need to be addressed, even for a prospective marriage visa.

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