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Old 01-18-2019, 12:42 PM
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Please correct me if wrong - but NONE of your visas were processed in Russia.(with love)
I believe an application made to Australian Immigration is processed in Australia.

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Please correct me if wrong - but NONE of your visas were processed in Russia.(with love)
I believe an application made to Australian Immigration is processed in Australia.
Actually they are processed at different embassies all over the world. And often by people who have no connection to Australia, well beyond working at the embassy of course.


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I believe an application made to Australian Immigration is processed in Australia.
Not necessarily. Many onshore applications are now processed in offshore processing centres.

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Not necessarily. Many onshore applications are now processed in offshore processing centres.
Yup. My wifes 820 was processed in Suva. Granted 3 days ago.

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I believe an application made to Australian Immigration is processed in Australia.
Not exactly sure what you are saying here.

All visas are made to a Australian Immigration "place", are you talking onshore or offshore?

Most offshore Partner Visas are not processed in Australia and most are processed at a particular embassy depending on country of residence or citizenship of the applicant.

As before Ukraine (and other countries) applicants were almost all processed in Russia at the Australian Embassy, but now I understand no Ukrainian Partner Visas are processed in Russia.

South Africa process much/most of the southern African nations visas. Some embassies are pretty tough and even have their own rules on what they want Cairo and Singapore spring to mind.


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Not exactly sure what you are saying here.

All visas are made to a Australian Immigration "place", are you talking onshore or offshore?

Most offshore Partner Visas are not processed in Australia and most are processed at a particular embassy depending on country of residence or citizenship of the applicant.

As before Ukraine (and other countries) applicants were almost all processed in Russia at the Australian Embassy, but now I understand no Ukrainian Partner Visas are processed in Russia.

South Africa process much/most of the southern African nations visas. Some embassies are pretty tough and even have their own rules on what they want Cairo and Singapore spring to mind.
Okay that is entirely possible but I concluded that the expensive request of translating to English all foreign language documents and filling in the online Australian application, it would be processed here.

I really do not see the justification for Australian case workers being based in Embassies all over the world for processing Visa applications. Once the case worker has contacted me directly I will let you know where it is being processed. This could be the reason why they take so long. I will be highly surprised if they are outside of Australia. If a foreign case worker processes our application then Australian Immigration rulings would need strict adherence. For example basic English communication with Asian Telstra reps. is a struggle at times.


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At embassies outside Australia most of the staff are local residents of that country.

They are paid in the local way, in Russia the Case Officer position was advertised and from memory English was a requirement and the salary was around $2,000 AUD per month ( but was a fix rouble amount). Conditions seemed pretty good.

While the Case Officer processes the applications, they do not approve them. The Case officer after processing the application presents it to an Australian, in my cases and seems most with the title of Second Secretary.

The Second Secretary can review the application and agree or disagree with the Case Officers recommendation and grant or refuse the application. The Case Officer will then give you a grant or refusal letter.

So that is why the documents have English Translation requirement, so the Australian/s at the embassy can read the documents if they do not speak the local language. Some embassies will accept documents not translated and I expect that is because the Australian can understand the local language.

Here is a current vacancy.

https://russia.embassy.gov.au/mscw/jobs.html

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Dear X and Y

Your application is moving ahead.

Please provide the further information requested in the attached documents. All requested information can be emailed as colour scans. Apparently the evidence that you children are Australian citizens by descent was not enough, they warn to see their birth certificates.

You will note that your application is being processed in Brasilia. I had a US citizen who is in Melbourne granted PR today, from Jakarta. So much for bringing partner visa applications onshore for consistent decision making.

The medical report will be sent electronically to immigration and I will be able to access it. Please email me the receipt for the medical examination fee and the receipts for police clearance applications.

Here is a link to the details of panel physicians and police clearances from which you can select United States of America for particulars:

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Yes Westly the places of some visa processing recently is surprising.

That said most of them I have seen if not all have been grants not refusals.

Do you have any stats on this "third party" embassy processing refuse/grant ratio?


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The questions to be answered are:

1. What percentage of DIY (or unregistered agent-represented) partner applications are refused?

2. What percentage of RMA-managed partner applications are refused?

HINT for 2:
I do not know of any RMA having a finalised partner visa (of any flavour) refused, except where the client had lied and been caught out. I have never had one refused, although I have had to withdraw an application to avoid this and adopt another strategy.

HINT for 1.
Lodge of Freedom of Information request with THE department.

Notes:

A frequent reason for partner refusals is an applicant forgetting s/he is married to someone other than the sponsor and lying about it. In most cases, being married to someone other than the sponsor is not fatal (can be worked around) but lying about it is often (not always) fatal. Another question to be answered is: what percentage of DIY applicants consult a RMA for advice about this an other issues and are saved from making a fatal error?

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