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danie679 03-06-2019 02:40 AM

Struggling with 820 visa
 
Hi everyone!
I am trying to sort out how to go about applying for my partner visa and am just concerned with the potential for having it denied so I'm wanting advice on how to make it as strong as possible.

So me and my boyfriend originally met online and started our relationship around October 2017 online, we met here in Australia in December 2017 and I stayed until mid January 2018 at which point I went back to the states and got to work on my working holiday visa and getting my dog prepared to move out here (which is a costly 6 month process in itself).

I moved out here with my dog on July 30th 2018 and have been living here since. We have been staying at his mums while trying to get things sorted so we don't really have joint bills although we have a joint bank account and neither one of us have had good luck with finding jobs so its been a struggle.

I'm just wondering if our de facto relationship can have started once we were working on getting me moved out here or if it has to be from July ? We have also contemplated getting married to strengthen things but would rather wait so that we can afford the wedding we would really prefer, but are willing to if it makes a considerable difference.

Any advice would be great thank you !

CCMS 03-06-2019 04:59 AM

Your de-facto relationship starts on the date that you have sufficient evidence that you were actually in a de-facto relationship.

Being in a de-facto relationship typically means that you have some sort of joint household, that you have combined your financial affairs to some degree, that you were recognised by friends and family as a de-facto couple and that there was a level of commitment consistent with a de-facto relationship.

Registering the relationship, if you are not ready to get married, is worth looking into.

Also keep in mind the new sponsorship requirements, which may come into force as early as April.

danie679 03-06-2019 05:02 AM

WA doesn't do relationship registration so that's not an option sadly. What sponsorship changes are coming?

Alice_06 03-06-2019 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by danie679 (Post 1939153)
WA doesn't do relationship registration so that's not an option sadly. What sponsorship changes are coming?

Also in WA.

I applied for my 820 after living with my partner for over a year.
I thought we didn't have enough evidence back then.
No children, not married yet.
No joint lease agreement as we lived in my partner's house and my partner didn't want to supply a copy of his mortgage...(stubborn)
No joint name bills as my partners paid them on his own and he was too lazy to add my name.
We owned a dog and I paid vet bills. But I forgot to put my partner's name down on the dog registration paper so it looked like the dog was only mine.
Had a joint account which we didn't use much back then.
I had met all his family but he only met my distant relatives over here who didn't believe our relationship would last...

Anyway I went ahead to apply the visa with what I got on hand and I got 820 granted in 10 months.

So be confident and gather as much evidence as you can.

If you cant register your relationship in WA, a minimum of 12 months living together is essential.

Good luck!

CCMS 03-06-2019 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danie679 (Post 1939153)
WA doesn't do relationship registration so that's not an option sadly. What sponsorship changes are coming?

The change is that the sponsor needs to be approved before the visa application can be lodged. If you are on a temporary visa and the stay period runs out, before the sponsorship is approved, it may become problematic.We are not sure when it will come in. Some are tipping 17 April.

If you can't register the relationship, a simple civil wedding will have more or less the same effect insofar that you won't need to meet the 12 month de-facto requirement.

You will still need to meet the overall relationship requirements though.

It is not just a matter of being confident, as someone suggested. It is a matter of actually having the appropriate evidence for your circumstances. No two cases are the same. What worked for one person at a particular moment in time, may not work for someone else.

happyholly 03-06-2019 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CCMS (Post 1939165)
The change is that the sponsor needs to be approved before the visa application can be lodged. If you are on a temporary visa and the stay period runs out, before the sponsorship is approved, it may become problematic.We are not sure when it will come in. Some are tipping 17 April.

If you can't register the relationship, a simple civil wedding will have more or less the same effect insofar that you won't need to meet the 12 month de-facto requirement.

You will still need to meet the overall relationship requirements though.

It is not just a matter of being confident, as someone suggested. It is a matter of actually having the appropriate evidence for your circumstances. No two cases are the same. What worked for one person at a particular moment in time, may not work for someone else.

Regarding the changes that will soon come into place (possibly April) my question is: will it effect an application thats already been lodged?

I lodged my 820 in Nov.2018 and am just wondering if in the event my application hasn't been reviewed by April will the new laws effect my application? currently mine says 'received' and has not yet been assigned a processing office or case worker. I do however have a very solid case, with heaps of evidence so I'm not too worried about that and also plan to have our relationship registered by April as well. Thank you so much for your advise, time and help! :):)

CCMS 03-06-2019 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyholly (Post 1939285)
Regarding the changes that will soon come into place (possibly April) my question is: will it effect an application thats already been lodged?

I lodged my 820 in Nov.2018 and am just wondering if in the event my application hasn't been reviewed by April will the new laws effect my application? currently mine says 'received' and has not yet been assigned a processing office or case worker. I do however have a very solid case, with heaps of evidence so I'm not too worried about that and also plan to have our relationship registered by April as well. Thank you so much for your advise, time and help! :):)

I can't imagine that it would be applied retrospectively. It would only apply to new applications.

Mia Had 03-18-2019 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alice_06 (Post 1939157)
Quote:

Originally Posted by danie679 (Post 1939153)
WA doesn't do relationship registration so that's not an option sadly. What sponsorship changes are coming?

Also in WA.

I applied for my 820 after living with my partner for over a year.
I thought we didn't have enough evidence back then.
No children, not married yet.
No joint lease agreement as we lived in my partner's house and my partner didn't want to supply a copy of his mortgage...(stubborn)
No joint name bills as my partners paid them on his own and he was too lazy to add my name.
We owned a dog and I paid vet bills. But I forgot to put my partner's name down on the dog registration paper so it looked like the dog was only mine.
Had a joint account which we didn't use much back then.
I had met all his family but he only met my distant relatives over here who didn't believe our relationship would last...

Anyway I went ahead to apply the visa with what I got on hand and I got 820 granted in 10 months.

So be confident and gather as much evidence as you can.

If you cant register your relationship in WA, a minimum of 12 months living together is essential.

Good luck!


Hello Alice what are the documents you submitted then when you applied your PV820? Were on the same situation, my partner is stubborn as well and I am struggling with the what documents should I submit since I don’t have any. We recently got married and how long did you submitted all the documents after you lodge your visa application?

Thank you dor your reply

Alice_06 03-31-2019 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mia Had (Post 1941339)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alice_06 (Post 1939157)
Quote:

Originally Posted by danie679 (Post 1939153)
WA doesn't do relationship registration so that's not an option sadly. What sponsorship changes are coming?

Also in WA.

I applied for my 820 after living with my partner for over a year.
I thought we didn't have enough evidence back then.
No children, not married yet.
No joint lease agreement as we lived in my partner's house and my partner didn't want to supply a copy of his mortgage...(stubborn)
No joint name bills as my partners paid them on his own and he was too lazy to add my name.
We owned a dog and I paid vet bills. But I forgot to put my partner's name down on the dog registration paper so it looked like the dog was only mine.
Had a joint account which we didn't use much back then.
I had met all his family but he only met my distant relatives over here who didn't believe our relationship would last...

Anyway I went ahead to apply the visa with what I got on hand and I got 820 granted in 10 months.

So be confident and gather as much evidence as you can.

If you cant register your relationship in WA, a minimum of 12 months living together is essential.

Good luck!


Hello Alice what are the documents you submitted then when you applied your PV820? Were on the same situation, my partner is stubborn as well and I am struggling with the what documents should I submit since I don’t have any. We recently got married and how long did you submitted all the documents after you lodge your visa application?

Thank you dor your reply

Sorry I dont usually log onto the forum. I front loaded my application expect the medical. Got a generic email 4 months after the application requesting medical, form 80 and more evidence for the relationship. I supplied letters from both of us with same address, photos, phone call records and chat history though we were never apart, flight tickets for holidays. During the wait, invitation to my brother and his Australian visitors Visa, more flight tickets. I even supplied my ielts test result and my degree paper. Dont know why I did that lol


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