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rfwoolf 04-05-2019 06:46 AM

Visitor Visa refusal on grounds of financial means, but applicant showed $5,500
 
See refusal letter below
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Previously, a friend applied for a Visitor Visa and I (an Australian) showed money in my bank account, and this was enough to satisfy them.

Are there any agents that can please weigh in on the "adequate means" requirement:
  • Can the money be from a friend?
  • Can the friend just send the money into the applicant's bank account, and can the applicant just show a bank statement? (Does the money have to be sitting there for a long time?
  • How much money is required?

ampk 04-05-2019 10:21 AM

What was the intended period of stay?

CCMS 04-05-2019 11:34 AM

Decisions on tourist visas are widely inconsistent. What may work for one person, may not work for another one.

The general rule is that the onus is on the applicant to provide evidence that they personally have access to sufficient funds.

bakr 04-06-2019 01:08 AM

Your financial capabilities is much important than theirs. You have to show them that you have enough funds to support yourself and don't apply for more than one month, it is easier to justify that it is only for a family visit and easier to be financially supported. You will get it for three months as the minimum for this visa grant is three months.

ampk 04-06-2019 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bakr (Post 1944363)
Your financial capabilities is much important than theirs. You have to show them that you have enough funds to support yourself and don't apply for more than one month, it is easier to justify that it is only for a family visit and easier to be financially supported. You will get it for three months as the minimum for this visa grant is three months.

The minimum is not 3 months.

wrussell 04-06-2019 03:01 AM

The regulations require visitor visa applicants to have adequate funds, or access to adequate funds for the purpose of their proposed visit.

Some missions add the further requirement that applicants must hold the funds 'in their own right'. This policy (not law) used to be applied in cases where it was assessed that an applicant might have a 'falling out' with the person/s providing financial support and be tempted to work illegally, and more recently in any case.

THEY expect an applicant's income to be sufficient to have accumulated the funds claimed, so having a financial supporter add (dump) significant amounts to a bank account is not a good practice.

Decisions on visitor visas are becoming increasigly arbitrary, in some places, little more than a lottery. How about a 10-year-old (not one of my cases) being refused because he did not have employment to which he could return?

I have a colleague who has outstanding results in 'turning aroumd' visitor visa refusals, to whom I usually refer such cases. He is overseas opening a new office and has asked me to manage any such case that come along.

If you want me to assess your case and advise further, please go to my website: pinoyau.com and use the contact form.

Aussie in Thailand 04-06-2019 03:18 AM

Hi

The money cannot come from a friend. You need to have sufficient funds to sustain you in your own right for the period of time you have requested. My wife (Thai) has never been asked for multiple months of statements although she has a 9 year history of tourist visas. You probably should have sought advice first before submitting as now that you have an Immigration record you will really have to make sure you have everything in order. Do not appeal - resubmit but after seeking assistance (refer wrussell post).

Best of luck!!!

wrussell 04-06-2019 10:33 PM

Unless the applicant lodged onshore, or the application was for a 'family sponsored' visa the refusal decision is not reviewable.

rfwoolf 04-09-2019 01:06 PM

Thank you to everyone for the feedback.
I can see why the Australian Government would want the applicant to have funds (directly), because they want them to come to Australia to spend money (unless, of course, the circumstances are special, e.g. visiting a sick family member etc)

The applicant is very frustrated that HomeAffairs never requested his bank statements or further information from him,
and then even took 2 months to process his application,
but life isn't fair.
Hopefully people might take this as a warning, that if there is any doubt in your application, to use an agent.

Aussie83 04-09-2019 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfwoolf (Post 1944955)
Thank you to everyone for the feedback.
I can see why the Australian Government would want the applicant to have funds (directly), because they want them to come to Australia to spend money (unless, of course, the circumstances are special, e.g. visiting a sick family member etc)

The applicant is very frustrated that HomeAffairs never requested his bank statements or further information from him,
and then even took 2 months to process his application,
but life isn't fair.
Hopefully people might take this as a warning, that if there is any doubt in your application, to use an agent.

It's not just that its also people have come over and been abandoned by the person who was going look after them and end up in horrible situations in some cases, or the 'sponsor' holds it over them.

Regarding not contacting to request the documents you are expected to provide all evidence with the application, the onus is on the applicant.


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