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Old 07-14-2019, 02:02 AM
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Hi Mish,

I sent them another message and reword what I reques from them hopefully they come back tomorrow with some notes.

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Old 07-14-2019, 02:32 AM
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From 15 October 1993:

Sixty or so foreigners are about to swear or affirm
allegiance to Her Majesty Elizabeth II, Queen of Australia.
‘Rather than create a fuss by remaining seated during
the national anthem and the flag waving, I'll wait outside for
you, unless you want me to stay.’
‘I'll cope.’

‘You should have stayed. Talk about laugh.’
‘What happened?’
‘The Filipinas had their names changed.’
‘We knew that was on. Did you get your citizenship
certificate?’
‘Too right I did. It was enormously amusing. Our
member of parliament was there with the dignitaries, sound
asleep on the stage.’
‘He was asleep before I left.’
‘When they called my name he was wide awake in a
flash. He nearly fell off his chair.’
‘He must have been only half asleep.’
‘Well citizen, let's go home and tell the boys the
good news, and knock off the bottle of fizzy.’
‘My turn now.’
‘What do you have in mind?’
‘I'm going to write to Bogus and tell him if he wants
to run a Secret Society, he ought to go back where he
belongs.’
‘Typical Australian.’

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Old 07-14-2019, 03:03 AM
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Chapter 25

Acquiring citizenship is not meant to be a joke

‘Accomplish the application, wife. I'll check it.’
‘I can accept the application, but I can't accept the middle
initial from the Philippine passport.’
‘Who is in charge here?’
‘I am.’
‘Who makes the decision?’
‘I'm the delegate.’
‘What do you recommend?’
‘Your wife will have to be plain Joy Logan from
now on, unless you can produce a birth certificate with her
full name on it.’
The delegate has wielded her red pen and changed
the name on the application.
‘In the usual course of events, a woman does not
have her married name on her birth certificate.’
‘What about your marriage certificate?’
‘Here it is, Exhibit G, but as you no doubt know, in
the usual course of events, the last time a woman uses her
maiden name is on her marriage certificate.’
‘I need a document with her full legal name on it.’
‘How about the children's birth certificates or the
adoption order?’
‘They are not Australian documents. I must have an
Australian document.’
‘Will a photo licence do?’
‘Not acceptable.’
‘You know quite well what her name is. It is on your
computer a hundred times, along with the unanswered
ministerial correspondence.’
‘I must have a document.’
‘What's the alternative?’
Your wife will have to use the name on her passport,
without the middle initial.’
‘How long will it take to process her application?’
‘Six or eight weeks.’
‘You have authority to approve the application. Do
you foresee any problems?’
‘I will contact ASIO and the Federal Police, and if
your wife has no file on record, I will approve the
application.’
‘And if there is a file on record?’
‘Then I will have to find out what it contains.’
‘There will be no file, unless your mob has put one
there. While you are talking to ASIO, ask them whether they
have found out who bombed the Hilton. I will tell them who
bombed the embassy in Manila, if they apply in
quadruplicate.’

‘We know the federal pigs have bugger all on you.
Let's give ASIO a bell.’
ASIO answer the phone by giving their number. I
cannot hear any beeps, but I will bet they are recording. You
hardly expect them to announce—We are the spooks. Your
call has been redirected to the CIA.
‘G'Day. I am phoning to ascertain whether my wife
has her name on file with your organization.’
‘I can't give that information.’
‘My wife applied for citizenship today. She was told
that the minister's delegate would contact an authorised
person with your mob, and if you had no file, her
application would be approved.’
‘I'm an authorised person, but I can't give you any
information. People ring up all the time thinking we have a
file on them. They're paranoid.’
‘I'll spew if I haven't won a guernsey. My
grandfather was a communist, and I design nuclear bombs
for a hobby.’
‘You will have to apply under Freedom of
Information.’
‘We have just been through that with Senator Bogus.
He has got rid of the lot. It will be in the tribunal soon.’
‘You will have to use Freedom of Information.’
‘Can you tell me whether there would be any point
in my wife making a FOI application?’
‘Spell her name for me. What's her date of birth?
Give me your phone number. I'll phone back.’
‘I'll switch off the answering machine.’
‘You were just speaking to me about a citizenship
matter.’
‘That's right.’
‘I very much doubt that there would be any point in
making further enquiries.’
‘Thank you.’
‘Nice talking to you.’
‘What did he say?’
‘You didn't have a file before I phoned him, but you
have now.’
‘All clear then?’
‘You haven't been up to anything I don't know about,
have you?’
‘Not yet.’

God is unkind. The citizenship ceremony is to be
performed two days after the tribunal hearing. Joy is
panicking. She reckons Bogus will cancel her if we go in too
hard. I cannot tell her not believe the silly stories about
immigration.
‘Under control, wife. This is only a preliminary
conference to see whether the parties can resolve the dispute
by discussion.’ / cont...

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Old 07-14-2019, 03:07 AM
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‘We know they destroyed the files. How can we be
expected to discuss it?’
‘The tribunal has no idea what has happened. We
will be required to conduct ourselves in good faith. Sit there,
say nothing, and let me play with the monkey.’
‘If you get me thrown out of the country again I'll hit
you over the head with something.’
‘All we are going to say is that we have not had
service of documents, because we were unable, to read the
copies, and we will also say that most are missing. They
must produce a copy of the cancellation decision and the
Ombudsperson's report, both of which are in their litigation
branch, but are not yet served.’
‘They lied to the Ombudsperson.’
‘You have a sort of apology from the Ombudsperson
for letting itself be had.’
‘I'll frame it. Perhaps they are not all corrupt. The
Philippine Ombudsman would have prosecuted them for
lying.’
‘The most that happensis a memo telling them how wayward they have been.

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Old 07-14-2019, 10:38 AM
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That was hilarious wrussel but where did you get this from? It sounds like it comes from a book.


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That was hilarious wrussel but where did you get this from? It sounds like it comes from a book.
It did:

https://www.nla.gov.au/search?search...ltext=The+visa

https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/2232112/Details?

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Old 07-15-2019, 10:34 AM
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These guys dont know how their reckless letters hurt applicants.

I have never seen this kind of letter putting the whole life on hold.
The Department just doing their job, must be something not right that trigger them to recheck the application. It is better that way rather than saying sorry later.

And no, delaying a citizenship ceremony is not and will not put anyone's life on hold.

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The Department just doing their job, must be something not right that trigger them to recheck the application. It is better that way rather than saying sorry later.

And no, delaying a citizenship ceremony is not and will not put anyone's life on hold.
But they had enough time to check everything. imagine the long waiting the person has been enduring. The hope the person got after he got the appointment, did the test, and finally receiving the ceremony letter. And then, unexpectedly, told to hold on for more checks. Very unprofessional. Something is wrong.

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Old 07-16-2019, 07:50 AM
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But they had enough time to check everything. imagine the long waiting the person has been enduring. The hope the person got after he got the appointment, did the test, and finally receiving the ceremony letter. And then, unexpectedly, told to hold on for more checks. Very unprofessional. Something is wrong.
Well we both didn't walk in their boots so we can't really tell what was wrong and/or any pending issues with that particular application. Just give the Department a little more time to do their job properly mate, rather than rushing and taking risk, things are better that way!

And hope, do you ever hear this "Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane." -- Shawshank Redemption

ps. I have been in the queue longer than necessary so I can imagine, but still I have no complain but wait for the Department to call my name lolzzz


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Old 07-27-2019, 12:19 AM
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Hi Gintoki,

Did you get a response from Dept. of Home Affairs yet?


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