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Old 07-21-2019, 11:40 AM
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801 - Does sponsor do an application as well

Hi everyone,

We're just finishing off the 801 (permanent) partner visa and I'm wondering If I as the sponsor have to do another 'Sponsorship for a Partner to Migrate to Australia (300,309/100,820/801)' form?
Or is it just the applicant doing a 'Stage 2 - Permanent Partner Visa Assessment'?


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Old 07-22-2019, 05:14 AM
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You have both already lodged all the applications needed. It is now a matter of lodging the required documents for the second stage assessment.

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Old 07-22-2019, 05:59 AM
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Or is it just the applicant doing a 'Stage 2 - Permanent Partner Visa Assessment'?
I did this and sponsor did the sponsor stat dec, which is found on the website.


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Old 07-25-2019, 03:22 AM
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I did this and sponsor did the sponsor stat dec, which is found on the website
I looked at the link you gave to the Home Affairs Department website (Partner visa page). In the steps for the 801 application, they have given the stat dec form that the sponsor has to fill out in pdf.

Under statement 4 it says the following: "That our relationship began in _______ and we have lived together for _______"

Then in the footnotes on the left hand side, it says "Insert the year
your spousal relationship commenced" (for first blank space). And "Insert number of months or years" (for second blank space).

This is confusing because not everyone who applies for the 801 has a spousal relationship. The way the stat dec is phrased, it assumes that the applicant is married.

As it happens, I am married and I was living with my spouse for over a year before we got married. And we started the 820/801 application as de facto partners, not married partners. So our relationship did not begin with our marriage but began much earlier.

Can I add additional statements to the form just to clarify? Or am I only restricted to the phrasing given in the form?


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Old 08-02-2019, 03:26 AM
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Does anyone who submitted stage 2 application (801) have any thoughts about my post above?


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Old 08-02-2019, 06:09 AM
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This is confusing because not everyone who applies for the 801 has a spousal relationship. The way the stat dec is phrased, it assumes that the applicant is married.
Most people do have a spousal relationship when applying for a partner visa.

A spouse is someone you live with as a couple, whether married or not. This can be confusing to some, who use a different definition of the word from another country.

Spousal Relationship - Australia:

Your spouse includes another person (of any sex) who:
you were in a relationship with that was registered under a prescribed state or territory law
or
although not legally married to you, lived with you on a genuine domestic basis in a relationship as a couple.


You and your spouse have a commitment to a shared life as husband and wife, whether or not you are legally married, to the exclusion of all others.


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Under statement 4 it says the following: "That our relationship began in _______ and we have lived together for _______"

Then in the footnotes on the left hand side, it says "Insert the year
your spousal relationship commenced" (for first blank space). And "Insert number of months or years" (for second blank space).

This is confusing because not everyone who applies for the 801 has a spousal relationship.
We did it from the Philippines too. My wife, who learnt US English, thought like you did, that a spouse was a legal married person.

But I just filled in the form with the details of the relationship using the dates we began living together. She was my spouse, as we were living together as a couple. We got married later.

Australian government departments treated her as my spouse, from before we married.


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