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Old 10-09-2019, 07:09 AM
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Request for additional information for 801 stage visa

Hi folks been a long time since i've been on the forum.
Just a quick back story for us,
Wife is Vietnamese, applied PMV 03/15, granted 12/15, arrived Oz 1/16 married and applied 820 4/16 granted 5/16.
Applied 801 7/18.

Wife's first 2 years in Australia we worked on a remote cattle station, so we had no combined bills or anything to really prove living together.
we bought our own home 11/16 but due to the cost of deposit and fees for the banks only my name was put on the mortgage, because of this none of our bills are in joint names. I have tried but no one is interested in putting her name on any utility bills etc as her name is not on the mortgage.
We do have both individual bank accounts which our salaries are deposited into but is then transferred to our joint savings and spending accounts which all of our joint spending and bills/mortgage are paid from.

Anyhow sorry for the drivel, after 15 months of waiting today we have been asked for "further information"
I know its routine, however knowing of a relationship in distant family that was basically a sham with very little evidence to show was granted with zero problems, i am quite peeved.

We put everything we had into our evidence and now are being asked for basically everything again.

I need some advice as to how to setup our new evidence so if anyone who has gotten this far in the post can help with the below checklist that would be great.

Also would it be worth while engaging the help of a migration agent to get this done?

In the email they are looking for the following:

1: PROOF OF YOUR RELATIONSHIP
-mutual commitment to exclusion of all others
-genuine and continuing relationship
-we live together
-we are not related by family


2: FINANCES
-joint mortgage or lease documents (no go only my name)
-Joint loan documents for major assets like cars (our car loan is only in my name as the bank wasn't interested due to no PR yet for her)
-joint bank account statements
( for the bank statements we must have 100 plus pages from our joint accounts, can i just download the estatements and send them to them as is??? )


3: HOUSEHOLD
-A statement about sharing housework
-household bills in both names (same as above)
-document for joint responsibility for children (no kids yet)
- Documents that prove our living arrangments (no idea for this)
- mail or emails addressed to us both (do have tax returns which show our address is the same)


4: COMMITMENT
- Marriage certificate (they have this already do we send again)
-proof of each others background or personal details, you could tell us this at an interview
- proof you have combined your personal matters
- the terms of our wills (we havent got one yet)
- proof we stay in touch when apart. ( we send very few texts of substance to each other as rarely do we not see each other and talk face to face)

5: SOCIAL MATTERS
-joint invitations or evidence of going out together. ( we dont get joint invites and when we do go out together we dont really have any record of it, any suggestions?)
-proof we have friends in common (would a statement from a friend help?)
-proof we have told government, commercial or public bodies about our relationship (the banks know, who else??)
- proof we do joint sport, cultural or social activities together ( nope nothing here)
-proof we travel together (since we first uploaded last year we havent had a holiday but we've booked one back to vietnam for next year, show payment to the travel agent??)

6: They need copies of her passport and mine (why again?? apart from my new passport they havent changed since last time)

7: A current national police check, we did one in july last year i take it we have to do a new one??

Thanks to anyone that can help us with some advice. I feel we are very hamstrung on some aspects of our evidence due to the way we have our mortgage and bills set up.
we have 28 days to send this in i want to make sure we do it right.

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Old 10-09-2019, 07:32 AM
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That makes it sound like you didn't supply all that when you did the 801 in July 2018.

Most of it being similar to the 300 and 820 applications.

Our proofs did not include joint mortgage or other bills either. We did provide joint bank account details, and other envelopes showing both of us at the same address. Also details of joint trips and photos etc.

You should have done, or are doing, similar for the 801.

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Old 10-09-2019, 11:33 AM
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Firstly, what documents have you already supplied when you lodged the 801 last year? That will help.

Some thoughts I have without knowing what tou already supplied and what you do and don't have:
- supply the page of your income tax returns where you have to tell the ATO who your spouse is
- if either of you are an authorized for each others ATO account the show that (you can get a screenshot from my gov)
- motor vehicle insurance showing that the other person is listed as a driver
- joint bills (I know that Telstra and AGL both do joint bills)
- emergency contact at work showing it is your spouse
- superannuation showing your spouse as the beneficiary
- friends in common on Facebook

Yes download all your joint bank statements and attach them.

With your joint travel for next year the travel agent should have given you an itinerary or e ticket or something that has the booking numbers and passengers, attach that.

If you have a credit card and the other is an additional card holder attach a photo of the card and statements.

Also if your flybuy cards are linked on the same account take a screenshot of that, same for Woolworths Reward card.

We didn't have a joint mortgage and it wasn't an issue but we had joint bank accounts, joint bills and joint travel.

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Old 10-09-2019, 03:06 PM
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Are they actually asking for anything specifically? I have seen someone comment that they h just recurved a generic email. Basically as if it were saying we're about to look at it please make sure everything is available.


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Are they actually asking for anything specifically? I have seen someone comment that they h just recurved a generic email. Basically as if it were saying we're about to look at it please make sure everything is available.
Are you sure it is a "please make sure everything is available" email and not a "please give us more evidence" email?


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Old 10-09-2019, 11:48 PM
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Are they actually asking for anything specifically? I have seen someone comment that they h just recurved a generic email. Basically as if it were saying we're about to look at it please make sure everything is available.
The email we received specifically said request for more information.

When we applied for the 801 we added everything we had available.

Joint bank statements, especially showing purchase of our home
our superannuation showing each other as beneficiaries
e-tickets and photos from overseas travel
photos of us together
statements for what we have done together and future plans.
payslips from when we worked together and our new jobs
marriage certificate (2nd time)
national police check certificate
Statements from family about our relationship
plus other documents that escape me right now.


We actually only checked monday night on her myimmi account and was showing only as recieved, then 10am tuesday we got the request for more information, and it showing as initial assessment now.

-we'll update our relationship statements
( what is the best format for these? certified? etc)

-I will get family and friends and work colleagues who we spend time with to supply some 888 statements.
-will update bank statements
-tax returns showing our address
-the few extra photos we have together
-show our e-tickets for our holiday next year
-get a new national police check
- scan our passports and drivers licenses

Any other suggestions i can't think of right now?

thanks for the help so far, just so frustrated that they are asking for almost everything when we've already given them everything we had at the time.

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Old 10-14-2019, 01:04 AM
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just supply what you got, you have joint bank accounts so the financial evidence is strong enough. for social matters, you may want to supply as many 888 forms as possible, just ask all your colleagues, family members and friends and other relatives for completed 888 forms.

by the way, did they ask for police checks from both of you or just your wife alone?


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Old 10-14-2019, 02:56 AM
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Thanks for the reply.
They requested copy of my wife's passport and driver's license and my passport or license but only a police check for her.

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while I'm sure the other people in this forum will answer most of that, i thought it's strange you can't have joint bills. My hubby is on bridging visa and had no problem getting all bills in both names. there is no visa requirement for this. not sure about all states but in qld you can have joint car rego and joint insurance (visa type is not a requirement for most of this as your wife would still need to drive, pay bills, etc). you can also add her to your super annuation easily. most of this you can do manually on the website of the respective companies. Come on mate. visa applications are expensive and important, especially for your wife. please do it properly or go to a registered agent if you can't manage it. also you may actually have to take photos together and put them on social media even if that sounds unnatural for you, since it seems you don't have much other evidence. you need to show you are genuine. it's not up to the department to just believe you.


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Old 10-14-2019, 07:56 AM
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also you may actually have to take photos together and put them on social media.
We took joint photos but didn't put them on social media. We just uploaded them in the immi account. I think they understand that not everyone are media sharing type of people.


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