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Old 01-15-2020, 07:35 AM
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Partner visa is not general immigration. It is the one and only method available to fellow Australians to bring their families home. That should be given the utmost priority.
A lot of Australians view the partner visa as the "Easy Way" of getting a visa to Australia ( little do they know the truth)
Things have gradually been improving,when I married a "foreigner", I was accused of getting a mail order bride, despite the fact that I had known my wife for 4 years!
However I fear it will be a very long time before the prejudice has totally gone.

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Old 01-15-2020, 10:03 PM
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You guys are right.. it is such a shame that 'most' Australians are unaware and/or could care less about the trials and tribulations of family visas unless it is directly affecting their family.

Unfortunately, it is also very Australian to judge 'foreigners' and discount their importance in creating a unique and diverse society. I hope this changes

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absurdity of the partner visa program

This reports the absurdity of the partner visa program and questions the legality of imposing an artificial or indirect cap on partner visas (by allowing a very large backlog of applications).

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/nati...artner-pascoe/

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It may a an unpopular view, but I think one of the reasons the price is so high is because the criteria are relatively generous, and therefore the visa is so popular. The number of people posting who after knowing someone for a few months are looking to sponsor for migration seems pretty high. This creates a huge burden on assessing which of these are genuine relationships. I know that the assessment of permanent residency is later but I can understand that they need to screen the spurious applications early on. Having a high cost is at least a deterrent to long short "lets give it a go" application.

Having a (subcategory) with more established relationships/families (eg the ones that currently go straight to PR) that would also get fast tracked would help a lot.

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Criteria can be relatively generous depending on the passport you hold and temporary visas you can obtain.

Many people can never visit Australia before obtaining a PMV or 309 grant - the rules then say you have 9 months to get married and submit the 820 application for the PMV way.

More established family's does not mean genuine relationship is still continuing, many parents will do anything for the kids.

The huge burden of processing only takes a handful of hours (4 from memory) for total processing of the application.

The price increases (the big ones) did not reduce the number of applications, even when it increased twice in a year and added child cost.

I am not sure how the system can be improved, but some communication and information on where you are in the cue would help a lot.

If you log onto immi and see you are 34,873 in the cue today and log in tomorrow and see 34,801 in the cue - that is progress, slow but still progress.

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It may a an unpopular view, but I think one of the reasons the price is so high is because the criteria are relatively generous, and therefore the visa is so popular. The number of people posting who after knowing someone for a few months are looking to sponsor for migration seems pretty high. This creates a huge burden on assessing which of these are genuine relationships. I know that the assessment of permanent residency is later but I can understand that they need to screen the spurious applications early on. Having a high cost is at least a deterrent to long short "lets give it a go" application.

Having a (subcategory) with more established relationships/families (eg the ones that currently go straight to PR) that would also get fast tracked would help a lot.
Don't agree.

The systematic processes (including exorbitant processing fees) established by DoHA are clearly shows prejudicesm towards partner visas. It is very easy to compare fees charged by other similar countries like USA and UK to process partner visas.

This report indicates that UK charges less than half ($2428AUD) and USA charges less than a third ($1477AUD) in 2017. Seven years ago the visa fee was $1735 in Australia and there has been significant increases since then.

Considering above, to say the least, it is very clear that the current Australian regime is intolerant and prejudiced towards Australians establishing family partnerships with foreigners.

https://www.sbs.com.au/language/engl...h-partner-visa

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A reply I got awhile ago - note the inline charges dribble!

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jyaezjgmbc...reply.pdf?dl=0


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It may a an unpopular view, but I think one of the reasons the price is so high is because the criteria are relatively generous, and therefore the visa is so popular. The number of people posting who after knowing someone for a few months are looking to sponsor for migration seems pretty high. This creates a huge burden on assessing which of these are genuine relationships. I know that the assessment of permanent residency is later but I can understand that they need to screen the spurious applications early on. Having a high cost is at least a deterrent to long short "lets give it a go" application.

Having a (subcategory) with more established relationships/families (eg the ones that currently go straight to PR) that would also get fast tracked would help a lot.
Don't agree.

The systematic processes (including exorbitant processing fees) established by DoHA are clearly shows prejudicesm towards partner visas. It is very easy to compare fees charged by other similar countries like USA and UK to process partner visas.

This report indicates that UK charges less than half ($2428AUD) and USA charges less than a third ($1477AUD) in 2017. Seven years ago the visa fee was $1735 in Australia and there has been significant increases since then.

Considering above, to say the least, it is very clear that the current Australian regime is intolerant and prejudiced towards Australians establishing family partnerships with foreigners.

https://www.sbs.com.au/language/engl...h-partner-visa
When you compare with those countries you need to look at it as a whole including the requirements, for example they have minimum income requirements.
When they did the 2 50% increases the vac specified it was for budget repair as Abbott couldn't get his budget approved


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This report indicates that UK charges less than half ($2428AUD) and USA charges less than a third ($1477AUD) in 2017. Seven years ago the visa fee was $1735 in Australia and there has been significant increases since then.

Considering above, to say the least, it is very clear that the current Australian regime is intolerant and prejudiced towards Australians establishing family partnerships with foreigners.
Yet Australia makes it easier than both, by not requiring a minimum income level, for the sponsor.

It is good, for many of us, that Australia makes it relatively easy.

Australia also ensures that about one third of PR visas are given to Partners, rather than ignoring them. That is not exactly intolerant and prejudiced.

UK cost is currently about 3,000 ($5,7000) when you include the Immigration Health Surcharge, etc
Australia does not impose that on Partner visas.

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When you compare with those countries you need to look at it as a whole including the requirements, for example they have minimum income requirements.
When they did the 2 50% increases the vac specified it was for budget repair as Abbott couldn't get his budget approved
My recollection was only one of the increases was said to be budget repair related, the other an alignment (making PMV, Offshore and Onshore the same price).

Historical PMV figures ($0 = kids cost)

Nov-04 $1,245 $0
Jul-05 $1,305 $0 4.8%
Jul-06 $1,340 $0 2.7%
Jul-07 $1,420 $0 6%
Jul-09 $1,705 $0 20%
Jul-10 $1,735 $0 1.8%
Jul-11 $1,995 $0 15%
Jul-12 $2,060 $0 3.2%
Jan-13 $2,680 $0 30.1%
Jul-13 $2,680 $670 + kids
Sep-13 $3,085 $770 15.1%

Note 3 increases in 2013 + charging for kids, given Abbot was only in government from 18 September 2013 for less than two years that was not him.

At this time there was public out cry about boat arrivals and that was seen as an immigration problem and no extra funds should be given - that was the public opinion.

Given the circumstances at the time I believe both governments would have acted similar in relation to Partner Visa fees.


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