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Autumn12 11-16-2019 12:41 PM

Hi everyone,
My CO messaged this Friday asking for this:


"Evidence of your relationship with your de facto partner
- Evidence of contact while apart 2013-2017
- Photos with friends and family
- Etc"

In our application it CLEARLY states June 29 2017 as the beginning of the de facto rel.
We explained though and have given proof that that we have been romantically involved as boyfriend and girlfriend from 2013, but started living as de facto partners from 2017.

I can only give photos from when my partner was over, twice within those 4 years as we were both students. But his parents have been over thrice and I spent time with them as well. I have actually already given all these photos along with statements of our families that states our relationship.

How important is it to prove that there is relationship prior to living together because we did not write 2013 as beginning of de facto application!


What is the best way to explain this to our CO and how do I contact them?

Do you all have any advice? I am very anxious and I'm having a bad case of panic attack because of this.

Rock747 11-16-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn12 (Post 1973697)
Hi everyone,
My CO messaged this Friday asking for this:


"Evidence of your relationship with your de facto partner
- Evidence of contact while apart 2013-2017
- Photos with friends and family
- Etc"

In our application it CLEARLY states June 29 2017 as the beginning of the de facto rel.
We explained though and have given proof that that we have been romantically involved as boyfriend and girlfriend from 2013, but started living as de facto partners from 2017.

I can only give photos from when my partner was over, twice within those 4 years as we were both students. But his parents have been over thrice and I spent time with them as well. I have actually already given all these photos along with statements of our families that states our relationship.

How important is it to prove that there is relationship prior to living together because we did not write 2013 as beginning of de facto application!


What is the best way to explain this to our CO and how do I contact them?

Do you all have any advice? I am very anxious and I'm having a bad case of panic attack because of this.

From 2013, u stated u were boyfriend and girlfriend.. now although that is not officially considered a relationship, they probably want proof that u were in communication while u two were boy friend and girlfriend prior to the beginning of ur de facto relationship

Rock747 11-16-2019 02:43 PM

If u have proof of communication from 2013 , u shd pile them up in a pdf

Autumn12 11-16-2019 07:11 PM

What if we may have lost most of them? Is it possible to get it somewhwre somehow?

Rock747 11-16-2019 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn12 (Post 1973705)
What if we may have lost most of them? Is it possible to get it somewhwre somehow?

No case officer will expect you to have all your chats intact. Its a normal thing to loose some of your chats. Gather wat you have as long as it begins from 2013. And just explain u dont have all your chats and why u dont have it if their change of facebook account etc whatever the reason is. They will understand. Importantly , dont try to fabricate any thing for lost chats. Be honest

And chats isnt only proof of communication. If u were making calls to your partner in 2013, u can contact the telecom company to give u a copy of ur phone call history in 2013 then highlights them with a bright marker, all calls to your partner's number at that time

CCMS 11-16-2019 08:49 PM

If you have any evidence of that period, you could add it to your application to back up your statement. If you don’t, provide a brief explanation.

More importantly , write to the CO outlining the relevant evidence you have already provided and how you meet de-facto requirements. Ask them to confirm if they still require the other evidence since you have already provided evidence that you were in a de-facto relationship from 2017 onwards.

Autumn12 11-16-2019 08:58 PM

Thank you so much everyone. I'm losing sleep over this. I am terrified. I have already sent in photos, facebook posts and interaction of each other's family from 2013 before. I truly do not understand why I'm being asked for more because we're not saying we have been in de facto from then.

I am also thinking of involving a migration agent. Is this a good idea?

CCMS 11-16-2019 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn12 (Post 1973715)
Thank you so much everyone. I'm losing sleep over this. I am terrified. I have already sent in photos, facebook posts and interaction of each other's family from 2013 before. I truly do not understand why I'm being asked for more because we're not saying we have been in de facto from then.

I am also thinking of involving a migration agent. Is this a good idea?

It is always a good idea to use a Registered Migration Agent.

If you have already provided the evidence requested, write a polite letter pointing out what has been provided , how it is relevant to the application and ask for a clarification.

Autumn12 11-16-2019 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CCMS (Post 1973717)
Quote:

Originally Posted by Autumn12 (Post 1973715)
Thank you so much everyone. I'm losing sleep over this. I am terrified. I have already sent in photos, facebook posts and interaction of each other's family from 2013 before. I truly do not understand why I'm being asked for more because we're not saying we have been in de facto from then.

I am also thinking of involving a migration agent. Is this a good idea?

It is always a good idea to use a Registered Migration Agent.

If you have already provided the evidence requested, write a polite letter pointing out what has been provided , how it is relevant to the application and ask for a clarification.


I shall do that. Because in the further information on requested evidence it even stated nature of household, finances, etc. And we cant obviously provide that! Thank you!

Aussie83 11-16-2019 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Autumn12 (Post 1973715)
Thank you so much everyone. I'm losing sleep over this. I am terrified. I have already sent in photos, facebook posts and interaction of each other's family from 2013 before. I truly do not understand why I'm being asked for more because we're not saying we have been in de facto from then.

I am also thinking of involving a migration agent. Is this a good idea?

It's not like they are being unreasonable and there is no need to put it in a negative light.
While you claim your defacto date from x, you say you have known each other from Y.
So they are asking for evidence of your claim. That's not unreasonable.
If you can follow up your claim they may be looking at granting PR at the same time.


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