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Old 11-19-2019, 01:51 AM
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Need an advice regarding a joint lease for my partner’s friend while 820 is still in

Hello people, I have been lurking this forum for advice and suggestions. The advice here are gold. At that time I didn’t think I would need to register and ask questions. I applied for 820 visa last November and have received an acknowledgment letter a year later that my application is in process. But that’s not what I’m here for

My partner is asked for a favour by his long time friend to help her with her lease. They know each other for 25+ years. She’s a single mom, unemployed and been rejected from 30 leasing applications she applied to. She thinks if someone is on joint lease with her, she would have a better chance of getting a new house. She is in desperate situation. Recently just got her 4th eviction notice

Her plan was to get joint lease with my partner and get him out of the lease in 3 months. He will be “moving in” with her on paper for those 3 months but physically he’s still living with me. We, as partners, will be doing our days as usual

We are keen to help her but wanted to do more research into this matter and what implications it would have. I turned to my immigration agent for advice, they say it’s a bad idea. Although we won’t be telling immigration, the department has many ways to check. It’s better to keep things clean and simple. She was furious that we can’t help her. She claimed that no way the department has any access to my partner’s rental history and my agent is telling lies. She has severed contact with us now

So what do you think?


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I am with an immigration agent. My agent is against the idea. Even my partner's parents are against that idea. It's a financial risk


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As a complete outsider - my knee jerk reaction is no, do not do it.

What has led to her getting an eviction notice, let alone 4? I doubt having someone else on the lease not living in the same home would change the reason(s) moving forward.

Especially if they have been so quick to react in anger and sever ties I think that only confirms the potentially dicey situation your partner may find themselves in.

I think it is not at all far-fetched to think you might be opening yourselves up to complications arising from DHA finding out, it just takes one person to dob you in, and you put your 820/801 journey in jeopardy.

Perhaps put in her in touch with community services that may be able to assist her with immediate housing / addressing any root reasons for getting eviction notices.

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As a complete outsider - my knee jerk reaction is no, do not do it.

What has led to her getting an eviction notice, let alone 4? I doubt having someone else on the lease not living in the same home would change the reason(s) moving forward.

Especially if they have been so quick to react in anger and sever ties I think that only confirms the potentially dicey situation your partner may find themselves in.

I think it is not at all far-fetched to think you might be opening yourselves up to complications arising from DHA finding out, it just takes one person to dob you in, and you put your 820/801 journey in jeopardy.

Perhaps put in her in touch with community services that may be able to assist her with immediate housing / addressing any root reasons for getting eviction notices.


She asked her landlord to fix the aircon. There could be more depth to it. My partner said she's got fiery temper. She could be rubbing the landlord the wrong way. Thank you for the reply. I was a bit uneasy about what partner was about to do. Now I can rest assured that it was a bad idea


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She is one of the witnesses that wrote statutory declaration for us. Does DHA usually call the witnesses for further investigation into the relationship?

With how the situation unfolded, she is in the mood for revenge. My agent said nothing to worry about, but I'd like to hear second opinions


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She is one of the witnesses that wrote statutory declaration for us. Does DHA usually call the witnesses for further investigation into the relationship?

With how the situation unfolded, she is in the mood for revenge. My agent said nothing to worry about, but I'd like to hear second opinions
A statutory declaration isn't just a random statement, if you make a false statement in a statutory declaration on purpose, you can be charged with a criminal offence. You could be imprisoned for up to 4 years.

So if she goes down that road, she will have to explain herself too, and given the context you would have about declining to do something illegal to supposedly help her (with the lease), I do not think it would be an issue for you to my unprofessional mind.

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That gives me a little bit of relief. Also confirmed what my agent said that she will be committing perjury

Do you think someone’s rental history prior lodgement date would impact the exclusivity of the relationship?

My partner and I have been living together uninterruptedly since we cohabitate in 2016. We live with his mom and pay rent to her. It’s her house

This friend claimed my partner helped her last year. We don’t remember if he did. He would have discussed it with me and consulted his mom. If he did, it would have happened before my lodgement date in November 2018. So by bad luck my partner’s name will appear once

My agent is new to this situation. DHA discretions would play the role according to my agent. But they think if I have proof of cohabitation since 2018 it should be fine

I would like to know how youR take on this


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That gives me a little bit of relief. Also confirmed what my agent said that she will be committing perjury

Do you think someoneís rental history prior lodgement date would impact the exclusivity of the relationship?

My partner and I have been living together uninterruptedly since we cohabitate in 2016. We live with his mom and pay rent to her. Itís her house

This friend claimed my partner helped her last year. We donít remember if he did. He would have discussed it with me and consulted his mom. If he did, it would have happened before my lodgement date in November 2018. So by bad luck my partnerís name will appear once

My agent is new to this situation. DHA discretions would play the role according to my agent. But they think if I have proof of cohabitation since 2018 it should be fine

I would like to know how youR take on this
Depends what that help looked like and if it left a paper trail me thinks.

It may be worth getting a second or third opinion from other reputable MARA agents too for what it is worth, to affirm what your agent says currently about it not being an issue or to help prepare a response to DHA in case it is likely to be an issue.

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