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Old 12-20-2019, 04:02 AM
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Under a lot of pressure. Girlfriend in Russia. Help :(

Hi everyone, I am new here. I am simply lost and under an extreme amount of stress and pressure and I have no idea where to look for help. I figured this forum would be the best bet.

To cut a long story short. I met girlfriend Marina 9 months ago, we started talking on skype and fell in love. I went to visit her in Kaliningrad 3 months ago to meet in person and it was wonderful. I had big plans to bring her to Australia and start a future together.

Once I returned to Australia I immediately inquired about tourist visa for marina but was shocked that most immigration agents charge over $2500 just for their services. I discussed this with her and we agreed she would use an agency in Russia which is a lot cheaper.

The agency submitted her tourist visa and was rejected based on inconsistent funds not adding up and they were not satisfied she will return back to Russia. This put on a great deal of stress on our relationship.

I am under a lot of pressure because she has no money and hasn't worked for over a year, I have been supporting her and my self which is not easy to say the least. Plus I now have a sick mother I need to look after.

She is not happy and wants to have a normal relationship, she is crying and screaming on a daily basis and I feel completely helpless.

I have spoken to numerous immigration agencies and they all give me zero hope. Saying its too difficult to bring her here on a tourist visa and a partner visa is the only option which is a ridiculous $10k.

I am thinking of alternatives. She suggested I take her to Bali and set her up there to live as the distance from Australia to Bali is far closer in comparison to Russia. The problem is I would have to be supporting her rent over there, her living expenses and I don't think I could sustain that for long term.

I don't know what else to do. If anyone can give me some advice I would greatly appreciate it. My mother has cancer and I don't have any support from anyone. I only have Marina and it would do me wonders if she was by my side to support me. Its just so difficult in terms of finances and visas.

I am sorry if my grammar is not up to par. I' am mentally not in a good place so I can't really think clearly.


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Old 12-20-2019, 04:27 AM
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Hi everyone, I am new here. I am simply lost and under an extreme amount of stress and pressure and I have no idea where to look for help. I figured this forum would be the best bet.

To cut a long story short. I met girlfriend Marina 9 months ago, we started talking on skype and fell in love. I went to visit her in Kaliningrad 3 months ago to meet in person and it was wonderful. I had big plans to bring her to Australia and start a future together.

Once I returned to Australia I immediately inquired about tourist visa for marina but was shocked that most immigration agents charge over $2500 just for their services. I discussed this with her and we agreed she would use an agency in Russia which is a lot cheaper.

The agency submitted her tourist visa and was rejected based on inconsistent funds not adding up and they were not satisfied she will return back to Russia. This put on a great deal of stress on our relationship.

I am under a lot of pressure because she has no money and hasn't worked for over a year, I have been supporting her and my self which is not easy to say the least. Plus I now have a sick mother I need to look after.

She is not happy and wants to have a normal relationship, she is crying and screaming on a daily basis and I feel completely helpless.

I have spoken to numerous immigration agencies and they all give me zero hope. Saying its too difficult to bring her here on a tourist visa and a partner visa is the only option which is a ridiculous $10k.

I am thinking of alternatives. She suggested I take her to Bali and set her up there to live as the distance from Australia to Bali is far closer in comparison to Russia. The problem is I would have to be supporting her rent over there, her living expenses and I don't think I could sustain that for long term.

I don't know what else to do. If anyone can give me some advice I would greatly appreciate it. My mother has cancer and I don't have any support from anyone. I only have Marina and it would do me wonders if she was by my side to support me. Its just so difficult in terms of finances and visas.

I am sorry if my grammar is not up to par. I' am mentally not in a good place so I can't really think clearly.
Have you been talking to registered migration agents? The quote for a tourist visa seems very wrong and from what you've said a partner visa at this stage would be doomed to fail.
I suggest you have a consult with one the agents on the sticky of this form


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Old 12-20-2019, 04:37 AM
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Have you been talking to registered migration agents? The quote for a tourist visa seems very wrong and from what you've said a partner visa at this stage would be doomed to fail.
I suggest you have a consult with one the agents on the sticky of this form
Thank you so much for the reply.

I live on the gold coast and I have called around 6 registered migration agents. Their prices vary from $1800 to $2500. That is just for a tourist visa. maybe its a Gold Coast thing?

I would be more than happy to consult with one of the agents here.


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To cut a long story short. I met girlfriend Marina 9 months ago, we started talking on skype and fell in love. I went to visit her in Kaliningrad 3 months ago to meet in person and it was wonderful. I had big plans to bring her to Australia and start a future together.

Once I returned to Australia I immediately inquired about tourist visa for marina but was shocked that most immigration agents charge over $2500 just for their services.
Getting a visitor visa from Russia is not the easiest.


I suggest asking one of the agents that help on this forum at https://www.australiaforum.com/visas...on-agents.html

Ask for a quote for Visitor Visa and/or Partner visa, with as much detail as you can give them.

The problem with a visitor visa is you would probably only get 3 months. Which may not suit what you are looking for, as she will have to leave after 3 months.

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Tourist visa applications are actually enormously time consuming (hence the cost) and can be difficult to obtain from countries like Russia, especially if the applicant is not employed and has no travel history to other Western countries.

Having an offshore partner visa in the system may assist in getting a subsequent tourist visa granted.

Long term, the only real solution is to apply for a partner or prospective marriage visa. I understand the initial shock re. the costs and paperwork involved. If this is something you really want, you need to face reality and come to terms with the demands of Australian bureaucracy.

Find a Registered Migration Agent you feel comfortable with, work out a suitable and realistic strategy and look to the future.

I strongly advise against using overseas agencies, especially if they are not run by an Australian Registered Migration Agent.

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The road has lots of bumps, the road you are taking has more bumps than others.

The Russian embassy can be very harsh - we had to leave a child behind in Ukraine (as a security) for the other two to get visitor visas.

It will be expensive and it will take time.

Not sure the Bali idea has much benefit, that money maybe best spent meeting in a few welcoming countries for some shortish (a week) stays such as Vietnam.

There is no magic trick - it is hard.


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It seems your girlfriend is not working herself and is expecting you to support her. If you are not able to do that in Russia or Bali, then I think it is unlikely you will be able to do so when she is in Australia. Especially if your mother also needs your support.

It also sounds like she is not very understanding of the fact that this is a difficult situation for you and is not treating you very well. Based on these observations I would think long and hard if this relationship is worth going through all the immigration trouble with (which is expensive and stressful in the best circumstances).

Sorry if this is too crude, but based on the story you provided this is my impression of things.

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The Russian embassy can be very harsh - we had to leave a child behind in Ukraine (as a security) for the other two to get visitor visas.
Me too:

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It also sounds like she is not very understanding of the fact that this is a difficult situation for you and is not treating you very well. Based on these observations I would think long and hard if this relationship is worth going through all the immigration trouble with (which is expensive and stressful in the best circumstances).
Fully agree.

My honest opinion is that one should take a step back and look at the situation objectively as much as possible. A genuine relationship is expected to provide much needed support and comfort in difficult situations in life but not vice versa. Even immigration officials consider this fact when evaluating the genuineness of an application.

Unfortunately, partner visa process is tough, and many genuine couples are subjected to undue pressure. If a relationship could survive the immigration process, that relationship can be considered as strong.

You are in one of the best places to get technical advice on visa processes. I am sure, many people on this forum will help you to resolve issues.

When you need professional assistance or opinion, please consult one of the registered migration agents frequents this forum.

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I agree with with Roei ie that it sounds like your Russian gf is being very demanding. You need support yourself because you're looking after your ill mum. You're also not made of money. "Set me up in Bali!" Yeah, sure. I'd be very wary about this woman. Don't be manipulated. The last thing you need right now is more pressure.


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